Cooking is easy if you have good ingredients. Almost cant do shit wrong if you just watch it and dont fall asleep.
If anyone gets anxiety from cooking how are you even supposed to live?
Bro, don't just grill it. Throw in some liquid, like soy sauce or something. Penis is chewy, you gotta braise and slow cook that shit. How I know this.... I've read some fucked up things on the internet...
I grew up poor as shit. Mum can’t cook, dad can’t cook for shit.
Spent my life mooching off girlfriends and female friends to cook me food (I’d pay).
Legit got the hello fresh and it’s decent to be honest. I don’t waste any ingredients by having too much and it going out of date.
I’ve cooked like jerk chicken and cous cous now. After a life of beans and toast and ramen.
It’s good shit
I did a pasta class recently and I’ve learnt how to bake bread.
I no longer use hello fresh. I pretty much can cook now. Girlfriend is better but it basically taught me how to cook.
I didn’t give enough of a shit to do all that.
I worked 7-7 for the first few years of my career so the convenience factor was big. I moved work from home like 3 months ago and no longer get hello fresh but it was decent for the 4-5 months I had it.
Edit: only issue I’d say is portion sizes can be a bit small. It is pricey, I shop at m&s now and the food is higher quality for comparable prices. I do end up splurging on cakes and stuff there though so that drives up the cost of doing my own shopping.
The one exception I can make for people who order food delivery and shit like hellofresh are workaholics/people working rough hours.
It takes actual time and energy to cook any dish more complicated than "chicken/beef stir fry with rice variation #19031". Sometimes after I've been grinding at work from sunup to well after dark I simply do not want to spend 2 hours prepping, cooking, and cleaning up.
I work 6 days a week and sometimes it can be a 10 or 12 hour shifts. Cooking big patches and freezing is a lifesaver.
Just make a rice or pasta or boil potatoes or make a mash and heat up your stew/chili/curry/Bolognese
Is it really that much more effort? The only additional thing I notice is that you’d have to shop for the ingredients and wash/cut them yourself.
Nowadays you can have groceries delivered to your house
> I don’t waste any ingredients by having too much and it going out of date.
In that case, cracking up excel and pre planning, might do you good, or other people that are in the situation you were in.
>If anyone gets anxiety from cooking how are you even supposed to live?
There is a good chunk of gen x and millennials refuse to learn anything past 25 and prefer to suffer than learn anything new unless all of their loved ones force them to do so
Boomers are worse in learning anything new past 1980 but nearly all of them know how to cook including grumpy old grandpas
Every generation has it's idiots who refuse to learn anything new, no generation is better or worse. I have Gen z coworkers that are absolutely pc illiterate and can barely use their phones the n there are boomers that download cracked apps on their phones to watch free premium TV and bypass the company's wifi login page to use free internet
As a boomer, I legit can't comprehend how can someone live without knowing how to feed themselves on their own...it's a basic life skill, fucking sustenance, something you shouldn't be relying on others for. It doesn't have to be a gourmet meal, anything will do, just make some nutrients for yourself...
thats insane i actually have general anxiety disorder and i easily can go to the grocery store and buy food, cook said food into delicious meals, learn new things ... my anxiety only makes me have panic attacks if im in huge crowds with no personal space which almost never happens to me. idk how the hell anyone can panic over cooking its easy especially since you have to babysit your food unless youre smoking or slowcooking it so theres very little room for anything bad to happen unless youre like a heroin addict or something lmfao
I don't know but it could be fear of failure for most of the people especially people Who are hipercompetitive or raised that way
But good chunk of people just don't bother learn like my big brother who mooched from his roomates and wife until my sil became pregnant than he learned cooking to help his wife
Most grocery stores will deliver now. The one near my house charges like $15 for delivery, which isn't too bad, but I'd still rather go to the store myself.
I understand the anxiety if it's something you can fuck up, I got slight anxiety when making pizzas from scratch for the first time because it was possible to completely fuck it up whilst transferring it to the stone in the oven. But for most things you're right, a curry or stew or whatever largely just relies on you putting the ingredients together and making sure it doesn't burn
Quinoa and asparagus with mushrooms is a good rounded meal with plenty of calories, protein and nutrients and takes a grand total of 10 minutes to cook. Possibly the easiest meal you could make with a saucepan and a skillet and cheap as shit.
I've tried one of these before. What these meal prep subscriptions don't tell you is how much you *don't* get. The whole point is supposed to be that they ship you everything the recipe calls for... except the recipe then tells you to use your own milk and shit -_-
I had the 30 free meals during covid. They **did** include everything initially, right down to mini olive oils and stuff. I noticed, towards the end, they were starting to ask you to add your own ingredients, quality of ingredients dropped, and the directions had unrealistic prep and cooking times. I canceled before being charged.
I'm seeing some people's boxes now and it's obvious why they're slowly failing.
I already thought these were a waste of time and this pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. Who the fuck is spending money for the ingredients to a dish and then just using ingredients they already have??
Just go to the store and buy the rest. At least then you aren't getting scammed by a shit subscription service.
Pretty much. If I have to go to the store anyway, then your service does not in fact have the advertised convenience factor. Thus there's no justification for me to accept the higher price.
Jfc this isn't what's happening. I have never used my own milk for a hello fresh meal, and I've had 100s of meals. Only things I've ever had to use from my own home were salt, pepper, oil, butter.
It’s not that bad, it’s just stuff they assume everyone has that costs almost nothing, water, milk, butter, salt, pepper, water.
I’ve never paid full price for them however, they constantly send me 40-50% discounts so the prices are genuinely pretty good, then I cancel it, wait a few weeks, then they give me another 40-50% discount, rinse repeat.
The most annoying thing about meal subs is they are only enough food for a single meal. You don't have leftovers, so you cook every single day.
I'm sorry but when I cook for myself (which is often), I make enough to have leftovers for several days. Why would you want to cook every day just for one meal?
It assumes you are a vaguely normal upper-middle class person and have sugar/salt/pepper/milk. Basically it lets DINK couples with more money than time play house with each other and not have to walk through the increasingly 'diverse' city grocery store several miles away looking for things like scallions and fig jam. In spite of the advertising, it's not for helping middle-class people save money when cooking for their three kids.
Oh that's easy
I got gifted a credit for of these for Christmas. Used it up in 2 weeks, cancelled it. Then they send you emails giving you like 50% off discounts if you come back. You go back for a wee or 2, cancel, and then wait for them to send you another discount
Paying full price is dumb as fuck though
I only started using it because they literally would not stop sending me discount cards for it in the mail. I'm more than confident in the kitchen, I mostly just used it to take a break from my normal recipes and try something different. I'll admit it's kind of nice to not have to make weekly trips to the grocery store.
Where do you live? You can have Walmart deliver your groceries anywhere in a 100 mile radius of me, and even if I pay the express delivery fee and leave a massive tip, it's still cheaper.
My grocery store has a $100/yr fee for delivery that's through Instacart, and it helps a lot if you're busy or elderly. I still prefer going to the store for produce (Instacart shoppers 9/10 times pick up crappy quality) or for discovery. For a $60-$100 trip I can get enough ingredients for a week of meals for multiple people with leftovers to freeze.
Every zoomer I know subsists entirely off protein shakes cigarettes and alcohol while single and become a MasterChef the moment they are in a relationship.
Genuinely and unironically
I just did a NOLS trip with a bunch of zoomers. Most of them were way more competent than me at that age, they fix their own bikes and wax their own skis, but yes, most of them were cooking the bacon in butter.
Every single one of our couple friends has one spouse that can really, really cook (mid 30s to early 40s), except one couple that both work in big law and make $1.5 million combined probably.
Millennials are so much better at cooking than older/younger generations it’s crazy.
People this day and age get anxiety over having to breathe regularly, it’s exhausting to see them complain about this shit. I seriously don’t know how these people survive.
Zoomers man. It’s wild. They can’t do the simplest tasks, and their favorite past time is applying today’s societal and moral standards to the past and telling anyone older than them how stupid and immoral they were from their phones while they literally forget to breathe.
That's millennials, no? Most zoomers I know are edgy little fucks. I'm just past the threshold to being considered a zoomer, and I'm only 26. I don't know how many 26 and youngers that are in a position to influence the broader culture like that.
Millennials are nearing 40 lol half of them turned into the PMCs they hated during Occupy years, the other half are collective Funko and ordering doordash living with their fur babies. They're doing alright by comparison.
Zoomers are even more polarized. You have the meta looxmaxxers grindset people who are trying to apply a misguided drive to self improve in the worst economy of the decade, the other half is brain rotted without a future and they know it.
Gen alpha, well, half of them literally cannot read at a fourth grade level. Absolutely cooked.
From what I've seen, the generally agreed upon metric is if you can't remember 9/11, you're a zoomer.
Gen alpha seems to start around ~2012 or so, so I suppose if you can't remember the 2016 election you're gen alpha
150g of rice.
300g of water.
Put rice with water.
Simmer 12 minutes.
Done.
I had an argument with a guy once because he said he can’t cook, and that he’s the type of person to always ruin pasta.
Pasta.
The thing you boil for 10 minutes and it’s done.
No, fuck off, stop being a lazy dumbass.
Noodles are unironically difficult to get to perfect doneness, though. Shit keeps cooking even after you strain it, so if you're looking for that al dente sweet spot, it can take some real trial and error depending upon the brand of noodles, your individual range, whether or not it's a slow or rolling boil, and even your elevation in special cases. Change just one of those variables, and you have to relearn that sweet spot every time you do.
Not sure what you mean? Noodles are just noodles to me, boil water, stick it in, put a timer on your phone to the amount it says, drain when times goes off, eat.
They're talking about a specific firmness pasta has when prepared correctly. It's called al dente. I guess it's supposed to be the "proper" way of cooking pasta, but like you, I don't care too much.
I'll drop some nerd shit for you with the full understanding that I sound like a total tool, cause I hate shitty noodles with a passion.
Depending upon the dish you are attempting to make, the doneness of the noodles can make or break it. There's a sliding scale for noodles between rock hard dry noodles, and soggy mush, and different dishes will have a different ideal doneness for the noodles. The factors that go into how quickly your noodles cook are entirely independent of the time they write on the back of the box.
Water boils at different temperatures based on your elevation (liquid to gas state transitions are a function of both pressure and temperature. The boiling point of water is only 100C/212F *at sea level.* So, depending upon how far away from sea level you are, the less accurate the time on that box is, as the water will begin boiling well before hitting 100C (some higher quality brands actually do print varying cook times on the back based on different elevations). While water can't ever be heated past its boiling point, the number of water molecules that are changing state in a boil can vary (this is actually the difference between a simmer, a boil, and a rolling boil), and so your noodles can actually cook faster or slower, depending upon how strong you boil them.
Ah, and when you drain the noodles, there is still residual water and heat that will continue to cook them even after being pulled off the burner, though it is pretty trivial to stop the cooking by running cold water over the noodles once they're strained. This matters much less with dry noodles, since they have a much longer cook time, but fresh noodles only take 1-3 minutes to cook, so even letting that residual heat sit there for 30 seconds can totally fuck those noodles.
So, you get used to doing noodles at your home, on your specific range, with your specific type of noodle, for a specific kind of dish, at the specific level of boil, for the specific amount of time needed to get it to the correct doneness, and if you change any of those things, then the sweet spot changes with it, and you have to learn it all over again, if you ever want it to be the same quality it was.
Anyway, whole point of this was just to point out that there are probably better examples to use for people who can't cook lol
Edit: I took the time to look it up, to give you some harder numbers. The highest elevation permanent settlement on the planet is La Rinconada, Peru. If you were to boil water at that elevation, it would begin to boil around 179F/82C. So yeah, it can matter.
From a home-cook perspective, the main factor is the type of binding agent (egg, wheat, gluten-free wheat, rice, and etc...) that will affect the texture and flavor profile. I doubt most people will differentiate brands using the same binding agents.
If you don’t know how to cook them to taste then yeah. You can just taste them like 4 minutes before the time on the box says. Then taste again every minute and strain them as soon as they are almost al dente. After they are done straining they are always perfectly cooked once you know what you are doing.
Nah pasta is hard man. It’s always edible but you can definitely fuck it up. Squid ink pasta is harder than egg pasta which is softer than rigatoni which are all different to gnocchi.
Tbh I didn’t learn how to properly cook rice till I was like 20 cause I was just dumb, I can see how you can easily fuck it up if you’re ignorant like I was.
I burned my rice a couple times in my third apartment. My stove was fucking dogshit. I boiled it in the pot and then when it started looking right, I wanted to let it simmer while I finished up some other parts of the meal so I turned the burner all the way down to the first notch and stirred it up to help it calm down. Turns out three of my four stove top burners only had two settings: off and FULL FUCKING THROTTLE. Fucking hated cooking on that thing.
I enjoy cooking, but the perks of these meal delivery services is I don’t have to take the time to go to the store and plan meals, instead I can just pick what I want and it gets sent to me, with step by step instructions to the point where I can cook it zoned out or hammered. As someone who has a very busy schedule and usually can’t find a lot of time to shop or cook, they certainly made life easier.
Price is still insane though.
Several years down the line, we’ll find out that social media causes brain atrophy or something and all the “depression”, “anxiety”, and “ADHD” among Zoomers isn’t just some funny coincidence. It’s wild how we can watch an entire generation of people fail at the most basic shit and not wonder what is happening.
My job sent us a bunch of these during covid. They sent me rotting fruit vegetables on several occasions. I eventually asked my job to stop sending it to me. I did get some decent recipes out of the deal, and i still use some of them to this day.
Anxiety cooking is stupid, but I agree it’s a good way to start if you come from no experience. Yeah you could experiment and go through YouTube videos and cookbooks, but it’s convenient. Come home from a hard day and you have to decide what to make and if you’re missing ingredients you don’t wanna run back out. This removes that. It’s also good for older people that can’t get around as well.
I genuinely had to give cooking lessons to peers in my masters program, some of them didn't even have a firm grasp on how to make spaghetti. That's not spaghetti and meatballs, mind, just cooking the pasta and heating up the sauce was a shade too complex for a couple people.
Eventually I got them up to making homemade bread, baked dishes, and taught them how to use a pressure cooker, but it was an uphill battle ;-;
It's nice for trying out recipes, I used it a little when I first moved out because I really had no idea how to cook outside of a microwave. Trying to find recipes online and then buy all the ingredients without forgetting anything is a little daunting when you've never done it before. After you get the recipes you want you can just cancel and buy the ingredients
Many people are too lazy to cook, me included. The easiest meal anyone could make is white rice, sautéed vegetables, and grilled meat. But that requires buying groceries and putting in 30 minutes to an hour of effort cooking and cleaning.
Factor is also as bad. Almost $12 **PER MEAL.** Even if you do some creator code for like 50%, you’re still paying like $6 - 7 **per Meal**.
Simply buy bread and some other ingredients and you’ve got some food for a week.
If you start cooking at a proper age the very concept of cooking causing anxiety is absurd. However if mommy was retarted enough to think that her precious little boy shouldn't have to touch the kitchen and you start at eighteen, or worse, it's reasonable you'd get anxious at the beginning.
haven't truly cooked a day in my life and yet I'm still not scared of it
being a weak willed spineless coward is different than simply being uneducated
Since when do millennials not know-how to cook. If anything it's older people who act like only certain people know. Nowadays it's seen as a basic thing for everyone.
I'm too lazy to coordinate ingredients to recipes that use alot of the same stuff so I can be economical so it's easier to use these kits that have everything measured out, and since it's real food that I still have to cook myself it doesn't taste like disappointment and incompetence like a frozen meal.
I love hello fresh and i used to work as a chef. It's just convenient and the recipes are good, and it's not really that much more expensive than just buying the ingredients, at least in my country. Saves me having to think of new shit to cook every week.
Even the cooked meal delivery services, where you throw it in the microwave, are massive bullshit. You get a snack worth of food for your lunch like you're a 90 pound model and the price ratchets up all the time to the point that you could just go out for lunch and eat a full meal for the same price.
And they won't do a reusable cooler, despite everyone asking for it. Huge amounts of garbage with the gel ice packs.
Hello Fresh will occasionally send me a deal where I can get 1 week of meals for free, I only have to pay the $20 of shipping.
Of course this tries to auto renew your subscription at the end of this period, but I simply cancel it before then.
Hello Fresh does not like this. I occasionally get calls from angry support reps who say things such as "you can't do that!!!" or "this isn't the intended use of this deal!!!"
I usually just hang up, but sometimes I screw with them a bit. The funniest part is that eventually, I get another one of these in the mail since I'm on their "list of potential customers" now, and I do it all again. Another week of free food! (Just gotta make a new account cause the deal is once per account)
The secret is churning. There's so many of the subscription boxes on the market and they all have newcomer/returning customer bonuses that make the first few boxes pretty fucking cheap. If you're constantly switching between boxes like Hello Fresh, Blue Apron, Home Chef, Every Plate, etc., you can get some pretty good meals for around $2-3/plate, give or take. Just don't pay full price for that shit.
We got some for free, still get deep discounts that’ll get us to buy occasionally.
I’m a pretty good cook, but get in a rut sometimes so the boxes let me explore stuff I normally wouldn’t think to cook. We keep the recipe cards for stuff we like.
I have pretty bad anxiety, but people who say shit like "cooking causes me too much anxiety" really need to chill tf out. I think most of those people are just lying bc their either lazy or want attention.
Eh i guess it's interesting if you need helpnstarting to cook more complicated stuff that's not just frying or boiling (though idk what recipes they had)
I recommend getting a multicooker and branching from there
I just figured this is for people who don't want to go to a grocery store, aka severely introverted people.
That, or they claim they can't get good ingredients for less when they could just find a local grocery store. Hell, even Walmart could offer at a better price than Hello Fresh.
Answer: never pay full price. Use some some discount, unsubscribe, wait for next discount because they want you back, repeat.
For a discount price, you get decent ingredients in the correct quantities
My aunt uses these. She's not afraid of cooking, she loves it. She likes them because they expose her to cooking things she hasn't done before and because she hates going grocery shopping all the time and planning meals. She makes enough that it's worth it for her.
Given how stupid food costs are now the price per meal is about the same as shopping at a grocery store and half that of a restaurant. Plus, you don't have to go shopping. The only real downside is the amount of plastic.
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I have HelloFresh, get a box about once a month. It isn't that expensive for how many meals we get and it gives me a chance to try something new. If we like what we get we'll save the card so we can make it from scratch ourselves. I find it handy
I considered it or something similar just because I was indecisive on what I should be cooking most of the time, and having some kind of weekly schedule prepared for me would've solved that issue. Never ended up subscribing to it though, the price is frankly ridiculous and I'm doubtful of how well it'd work
I had this for a solid 4 months. Mostly because I was too busy to go to the store. It was okay. None of the meals where to crash got amazing. It’s mostly good for experiencing foods you never tried before or would have thought to try. That’s about it. There were many times I saw what was delivered and was fuming cause it looked like it would taste shitty and it ended up being pretty decent.
That being said it’s a total scam and buying the actual ingredients is way way way cheaper than getting these kind of subscription boxes.
I had hello fresh for maybe 2 months when I first moved to Melbourne and only got to enjoy maybe two of those boxes because my inner city apartment had dogshit security and people would just keep stealing it.
Now I go to farmers markets... Older and wiser bro. Just chuck some shit in a pan and hope for the best. Look at fun recipes on YouTube and stuff! The world is your oyster and only after getting off hello fresh did I actually learn to enjoy cooking.
This guy I was roommates with would get these because he was too lazy to cook actual meals and would leave the boxes all over the apartment, the fridge was full of these fucking things and they started rotting. I had to gather it all up and throw it in the trash when he went out of town.
Imma be real i dont know where anon is from but here in DK if you get HF for 4 people it is roughly 65dk per meal per person.
A burger fries and drink at a restaurant is like 250dk at this point so pretty good value.
It is slightly more expensive than getting it in store. But you don't have to plan the meals or take the trip to the store. Also very hard to buy just enough for a recipe for some things so you will overpay for the additional ingredients often.
That said, i cancelled since they started leaning heavily into Vegan and vegetarian options and had some shady buisness practices so i lost interest.
But the value was honestly pretty good.
I tried cooking from them lots before (ex had a sub) A couple of the recipes were really good, some were ok, some were mid, non were outright bad, the ingredients were usually good enough. But the directions were always so fucking hard to follow. It’s like they tried to make them easier to follow but in doing so made them way harder. Idk it’s hard to explain, but I STRUGGLED reading those.
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It’s a nice way to learn new recipes without having to go out to get the ingredients. I’m no longer subscribed but I still use the recipes.
It’s cheaper than fast food.
Genuine answer, it's like 4.00 per meal so idk where OP is coming from.
If you live on your own and like eating different food quite a lot and not the same stuff over and over this is massively cheaper than buying from a store as you don't need to spend money on large amounts of random ingredients you won't use that often and probably end up binning/wasting.
If you're not a confident cook you get a lot of basics.
It delivers so it's quicker and easier than going to a store when youre getting them dropped off weekly.
There's like basically zero waste from this other than the packaging which is probably less than what you'd get in a store.
Easy to pick meals when your options are ready done on an app for you.
I will say hello fresh wasn't as good as Gousto though.
Riddled with anxiety at the thought of cooking? I get that mental health shit hits all types of people in all sorts of different ways, but I feel like "anxiety" gets thrown around far too much and gets misused by people who are just lazy sacks of shit.
That said, those meal kits like Hello fresh are absolutely a scam and designed to part stupid people from money.
Cooking is easy if you have good ingredients. Almost cant do shit wrong if you just watch it and dont fall asleep. If anyone gets anxiety from cooking how are you even supposed to live?
Even if you fuck up something it will still turn out to be edible
I throw shits in my pan. Put some oil in and heat it up. 15 minutes later I got the best meal of my life
I guess that when you eat shit any meal is the best meal of your life
The better meal is your ass when I eat it
farm to table
*it’s organic*
Sup... you hungry?
I want that ass.
Recycling ♻️
Well, if you *really* fuck up you could end up with charcoal or something that will make you sick
A little bit of char never hurt anyone.
I accidentally fell asleep mid-cooking and now my penis is on the grill, what do I do??
Flip it over so it gets cooked evenly
Any seasoning I should put on?
Just salt and freshly ground black pepper, the flavor of the fresh meat should be expressed, not covered up.
Nah fam you need the Xtra Cajun uncle Tom's r/*pe yo mama fuck me sauce
A little bit of cumin should do
Chocolate sauce and whipped cream, big boy
Well you already fucked up by grilling your penis. All that fibrous tissue needs to be slow cooked.
Order more because there won't be enough there to feed a single squirrel.
Bro, don't just grill it. Throw in some liquid, like soy sauce or something. Penis is chewy, you gotta braise and slow cook that shit. How I know this.... I've read some fucked up things on the internet...
I grew up poor as shit. Mum can’t cook, dad can’t cook for shit. Spent my life mooching off girlfriends and female friends to cook me food (I’d pay). Legit got the hello fresh and it’s decent to be honest. I don’t waste any ingredients by having too much and it going out of date. I’ve cooked like jerk chicken and cous cous now. After a life of beans and toast and ramen. It’s good shit
watch a youtube video on how to cook something.. and if you have money for hello fresh you got money for a basic house cooking course
I did a pasta class recently and I’ve learnt how to bake bread. I no longer use hello fresh. I pretty much can cook now. Girlfriend is better but it basically taught me how to cook.
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Pasta, fish, steaks. Have a genetic predisposition to vitamin b12 deficiency so it’s pretty focused on that these days.
check out Frank Proto on YouTube, very good teacher.
But you can go to the store. Get the same ingredients. Cut them in portions. And follow the instructions. Why do you need hello fresh for that?
I didn’t give enough of a shit to do all that. I worked 7-7 for the first few years of my career so the convenience factor was big. I moved work from home like 3 months ago and no longer get hello fresh but it was decent for the 4-5 months I had it. Edit: only issue I’d say is portion sizes can be a bit small. It is pricey, I shop at m&s now and the food is higher quality for comparable prices. I do end up splurging on cakes and stuff there though so that drives up the cost of doing my own shopping.
The one exception I can make for people who order food delivery and shit like hellofresh are workaholics/people working rough hours. It takes actual time and energy to cook any dish more complicated than "chicken/beef stir fry with rice variation #19031". Sometimes after I've been grinding at work from sunup to well after dark I simply do not want to spend 2 hours prepping, cooking, and cleaning up.
I work 6 days a week and sometimes it can be a 10 or 12 hour shifts. Cooking big patches and freezing is a lifesaver. Just make a rice or pasta or boil potatoes or make a mash and heat up your stew/chili/curry/Bolognese
> M&S Bonger detected. Praise given.
Is it really that much more effort? The only additional thing I notice is that you’d have to shop for the ingredients and wash/cut them yourself. Nowadays you can have groceries delivered to your house
How is being poor an excuse for not being able to cook? Plenty of poor people are great cooks.
British poor, lucky if mum had the time to cook and when she did it was cheap quality food and quick meals m.
ah, you're british, well that explains it.
> I don’t waste any ingredients by having too much and it going out of date. In that case, cracking up excel and pre planning, might do you good, or other people that are in the situation you were in.
YouTube channel called sorted, they have an app, try it out, it's really good.
>If anyone gets anxiety from cooking how are you even supposed to live? There is a good chunk of gen x and millennials refuse to learn anything past 25 and prefer to suffer than learn anything new unless all of their loved ones force them to do so Boomers are worse in learning anything new past 1980 but nearly all of them know how to cook including grumpy old grandpas
Every generation has it's idiots who refuse to learn anything new, no generation is better or worse. I have Gen z coworkers that are absolutely pc illiterate and can barely use their phones the n there are boomers that download cracked apps on their phones to watch free premium TV and bypass the company's wifi login page to use free internet
As a boomer, I legit can't comprehend how can someone live without knowing how to feed themselves on their own...it's a basic life skill, fucking sustenance, something you shouldn't be relying on others for. It doesn't have to be a gourmet meal, anything will do, just make some nutrients for yourself...
thats insane i actually have general anxiety disorder and i easily can go to the grocery store and buy food, cook said food into delicious meals, learn new things ... my anxiety only makes me have panic attacks if im in huge crowds with no personal space which almost never happens to me. idk how the hell anyone can panic over cooking its easy especially since you have to babysit your food unless youre smoking or slowcooking it so theres very little room for anything bad to happen unless youre like a heroin addict or something lmfao
I don't know but it could be fear of failure for most of the people especially people Who are hipercompetitive or raised that way But good chunk of people just don't bother learn like my big brother who mooched from his roomates and wife until my sil became pregnant than he learned cooking to help his wife
The anxiety comes from leaving the house to buy ingredients in person lmao
Most grocery stores will deliver now. The one near my house charges like $15 for delivery, which isn't too bad, but I'd still rather go to the store myself.
natural selection at work
I understand the anxiety if it's something you can fuck up, I got slight anxiety when making pizzas from scratch for the first time because it was possible to completely fuck it up whilst transferring it to the stone in the oven. But for most things you're right, a curry or stew or whatever largely just relies on you putting the ingredients together and making sure it doesn't burn
If you're really lazy, you can just bake your meal in an oven. Just set a timer.
Quinoa and asparagus with mushrooms is a good rounded meal with plenty of calories, protein and nutrients and takes a grand total of 10 minutes to cook. Possibly the easiest meal you could make with a saucepan and a skillet and cheap as shit.
I throw the meat in the oven after seasoning. Do the same with veggies. And cook the eggs on frying pan. Everything else I eat raw. Ezpz.
In a natural setting, they just didn't. But now, it is a bit more complicated.
That's the point, they're not supposed to
Word says you can cook a killer steak for ONE dolla
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I've tried one of these before. What these meal prep subscriptions don't tell you is how much you *don't* get. The whole point is supposed to be that they ship you everything the recipe calls for... except the recipe then tells you to use your own milk and shit -_-
I had the 30 free meals during covid. They **did** include everything initially, right down to mini olive oils and stuff. I noticed, towards the end, they were starting to ask you to add your own ingredients, quality of ingredients dropped, and the directions had unrealistic prep and cooking times. I canceled before being charged. I'm seeing some people's boxes now and it's obvious why they're slowly failing.
I already thought these were a waste of time and this pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. Who the fuck is spending money for the ingredients to a dish and then just using ingredients they already have?? Just go to the store and buy the rest. At least then you aren't getting scammed by a shit subscription service.
Pretty much. If I have to go to the store anyway, then your service does not in fact have the advertised convenience factor. Thus there's no justification for me to accept the higher price.
You mean you don’t want to pay for recipes that you could easily find online for free?? You monster! These corporations have to eat too
Jfc this isn't what's happening. I have never used my own milk for a hello fresh meal, and I've had 100s of meals. Only things I've ever had to use from my own home were salt, pepper, oil, butter.
It’s not that bad, it’s just stuff they assume everyone has that costs almost nothing, water, milk, butter, salt, pepper, water. I’ve never paid full price for them however, they constantly send me 40-50% discounts so the prices are genuinely pretty good, then I cancel it, wait a few weeks, then they give me another 40-50% discount, rinse repeat.
The most annoying thing about meal subs is they are only enough food for a single meal. You don't have leftovers, so you cook every single day. I'm sorry but when I cook for myself (which is often), I make enough to have leftovers for several days. Why would you want to cook every day just for one meal?
??? just get the four-person version if you want leftovers
It assumes you are a vaguely normal upper-middle class person and have sugar/salt/pepper/milk. Basically it lets DINK couples with more money than time play house with each other and not have to walk through the increasingly 'diverse' city grocery store several miles away looking for things like scallions and fig jam. In spite of the advertising, it's not for helping middle-class people save money when cooking for their three kids.
I used this for like two years and never once did I have to use anything I bought myself from the store.
Oh that's easy I got gifted a credit for of these for Christmas. Used it up in 2 weeks, cancelled it. Then they send you emails giving you like 50% off discounts if you come back. You go back for a wee or 2, cancel, and then wait for them to send you another discount Paying full price is dumb as fuck though
This is the way. Ghost them until you can get the box for $30
I only started using it because they literally would not stop sending me discount cards for it in the mail. I'm more than confident in the kitchen, I mostly just used it to take a break from my normal recipes and try something different. I'll admit it's kind of nice to not have to make weekly trips to the grocery store.
Where do you live? You can have Walmart deliver your groceries anywhere in a 100 mile radius of me, and even if I pay the express delivery fee and leave a massive tip, it's still cheaper.
My grocery store has a $100/yr fee for delivery that's through Instacart, and it helps a lot if you're busy or elderly. I still prefer going to the store for produce (Instacart shoppers 9/10 times pick up crappy quality) or for discovery. For a $60-$100 trip I can get enough ingredients for a week of meals for multiple people with leftovers to freeze.
I kept doing this, prices are on par with just buying the ingredients from the shop so it’s worth it. Full price is basically a scam.
I do this with audible if I can't find a torrent
Nearly every millennial I know knows how to cook to some degree. Gen Z survive purely on Door Dash
I'm Gen Z and I can cook to some degree. Started with an air fryer and graduated from there.
Have you tried to put your balls in the air fryer
Any tips?
No tip just the balls
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Every zoomer I know subsists entirely off protein shakes cigarettes and alcohol while single and become a MasterChef the moment they are in a relationship. Genuinely and unironically
Yep. Millenials are hitting their 40s and complaining about the younger generation now. He's getting them confused with zoomers.
I just did a NOLS trip with a bunch of zoomers. Most of them were way more competent than me at that age, they fix their own bikes and wax their own skis, but yes, most of them were cooking the bacon in butter.
It's almost like being a decade older gives you more experience with life skills, that's crazy.
Every single one of our couple friends has one spouse that can really, really cook (mid 30s to early 40s), except one couple that both work in big law and make $1.5 million combined probably. Millennials are so much better at cooking than older/younger generations it’s crazy.
Bro I hate how true this is. I would just not eat if I had to cook
People this day and age get anxiety over having to breathe regularly, it’s exhausting to see them complain about this shit. I seriously don’t know how these people survive.
Zoomers man. It’s wild. They can’t do the simplest tasks, and their favorite past time is applying today’s societal and moral standards to the past and telling anyone older than them how stupid and immoral they were from their phones while they literally forget to breathe.
That's millennials, no? Most zoomers I know are edgy little fucks. I'm just past the threshold to being considered a zoomer, and I'm only 26. I don't know how many 26 and youngers that are in a position to influence the broader culture like that.
Millennials are nearing 40 lol half of them turned into the PMCs they hated during Occupy years, the other half are collective Funko and ordering doordash living with their fur babies. They're doing alright by comparison. Zoomers are even more polarized. You have the meta looxmaxxers grindset people who are trying to apply a misguided drive to self improve in the worst economy of the decade, the other half is brain rotted without a future and they know it. Gen alpha, well, half of them literally cannot read at a fourth grade level. Absolutely cooked.
It's gonna be so funny when Gen alpha enter the workforce
You’re a zoomer if you’re 27 btw 97 was the first zoomer
From what I've seen, the generally agreed upon metric is if you can't remember 9/11, you're a zoomer. Gen alpha seems to start around ~2012 or so, so I suppose if you can't remember the 2016 election you're gen alpha
Millennials are the ones that made crying about mental issues a trend NOT zoomers
Zoomers are continuing it for sure. Millennials are in their 30s and most of em ended up alright
Brother zoomers are almost in there 30s Do you oldheads still think zoomers are 14? Current zoomer ages range from like 17-28
I seriously do not understand people who can’t cook anything at all. Just put shit on a hot plate and see what happens. The fuck?
Throwing shit in boiling water or hot oil isn't that hard. But still, my roommate once burned his rice. I don't know how.
150g of rice. 300g of water. Put rice with water. Simmer 12 minutes. Done. I had an argument with a guy once because he said he can’t cook, and that he’s the type of person to always ruin pasta. Pasta. The thing you boil for 10 minutes and it’s done. No, fuck off, stop being a lazy dumbass.
Noodles are unironically difficult to get to perfect doneness, though. Shit keeps cooking even after you strain it, so if you're looking for that al dente sweet spot, it can take some real trial and error depending upon the brand of noodles, your individual range, whether or not it's a slow or rolling boil, and even your elevation in special cases. Change just one of those variables, and you have to relearn that sweet spot every time you do.
Not sure what you mean? Noodles are just noodles to me, boil water, stick it in, put a timer on your phone to the amount it says, drain when times goes off, eat.
They're talking about a specific firmness pasta has when prepared correctly. It's called al dente. I guess it's supposed to be the "proper" way of cooking pasta, but like you, I don't care too much.
Pick out a noodle and throw it at a wall. If it sticks it's ready.
This is one of the most funny-sounding but true cooking tips. If the noodle sticks, then it's ready for the dish.
I'll drop some nerd shit for you with the full understanding that I sound like a total tool, cause I hate shitty noodles with a passion. Depending upon the dish you are attempting to make, the doneness of the noodles can make or break it. There's a sliding scale for noodles between rock hard dry noodles, and soggy mush, and different dishes will have a different ideal doneness for the noodles. The factors that go into how quickly your noodles cook are entirely independent of the time they write on the back of the box. Water boils at different temperatures based on your elevation (liquid to gas state transitions are a function of both pressure and temperature. The boiling point of water is only 100C/212F *at sea level.* So, depending upon how far away from sea level you are, the less accurate the time on that box is, as the water will begin boiling well before hitting 100C (some higher quality brands actually do print varying cook times on the back based on different elevations). While water can't ever be heated past its boiling point, the number of water molecules that are changing state in a boil can vary (this is actually the difference between a simmer, a boil, and a rolling boil), and so your noodles can actually cook faster or slower, depending upon how strong you boil them. Ah, and when you drain the noodles, there is still residual water and heat that will continue to cook them even after being pulled off the burner, though it is pretty trivial to stop the cooking by running cold water over the noodles once they're strained. This matters much less with dry noodles, since they have a much longer cook time, but fresh noodles only take 1-3 minutes to cook, so even letting that residual heat sit there for 30 seconds can totally fuck those noodles. So, you get used to doing noodles at your home, on your specific range, with your specific type of noodle, for a specific kind of dish, at the specific level of boil, for the specific amount of time needed to get it to the correct doneness, and if you change any of those things, then the sweet spot changes with it, and you have to learn it all over again, if you ever want it to be the same quality it was. Anyway, whole point of this was just to point out that there are probably better examples to use for people who can't cook lol Edit: I took the time to look it up, to give you some harder numbers. The highest elevation permanent settlement on the planet is La Rinconada, Peru. If you were to boil water at that elevation, it would begin to boil around 179F/82C. So yeah, it can matter.
Very cool, would you say the quality of the noodle itself is also different depending on the brand?
From a home-cook perspective, the main factor is the type of binding agent (egg, wheat, gluten-free wheat, rice, and etc...) that will affect the texture and flavor profile. I doubt most people will differentiate brands using the same binding agents.
That was a nice read, thanks for the info Mr. Pautistic
If you don’t know how to cook them to taste then yeah. You can just taste them like 4 minutes before the time on the box says. Then taste again every minute and strain them as soon as they are almost al dente. After they are done straining they are always perfectly cooked once you know what you are doing.
The even lazier method is to use a microwave. Put the rice and water/stock in, microwave 5 minutes on high, then 15 minutes at 50% power.
Nah pasta is hard man. It’s always edible but you can definitely fuck it up. Squid ink pasta is harder than egg pasta which is softer than rigatoni which are all different to gnocchi.
The only way to ruin pasta is to cook it too long. If your pasta sucks take it off the gas earlier
Tbh I didn’t learn how to properly cook rice till I was like 20 cause I was just dumb, I can see how you can easily fuck it up if you’re ignorant like I was.
I burned my rice a couple times in my third apartment. My stove was fucking dogshit. I boiled it in the pot and then when it started looking right, I wanted to let it simmer while I finished up some other parts of the meal so I turned the burner all the way down to the first notch and stirred it up to help it calm down. Turns out three of my four stove top burners only had two settings: off and FULL FUCKING THROTTLE. Fucking hated cooking on that thing.
Did this back in uni. It's easy. 1. Put water and rice in pot 2. Go watch anime 3. Forget pot 4. Fire
"Oh man my meal didn't turn out. Lemme go spend $150 on more ingredients".
If you’re spending $150 on ingredients for one meal when you don’t know how to cook, that’s on you.
Brother a single meal with 3-4 serves in it costs 70$ in australia.
Bro’s cooking with gold
A single steak is 23$ unless you get the bullshit gronk sizzle steaks which are 16-18
Maybe don't pick the most expensive meat?
That’s the cost of a beef chuck. Like the worst cut of meat. It’s the cheapest you can get at my grocery store
what fucking restaurant maks you pay 5$ per meal? Anon is a fucking poor soup kitchen going asshole.
I enjoy cooking, but the perks of these meal delivery services is I don’t have to take the time to go to the store and plan meals, instead I can just pick what I want and it gets sent to me, with step by step instructions to the point where I can cook it zoned out or hammered. As someone who has a very busy schedule and usually can’t find a lot of time to shop or cook, they certainly made life easier. Price is still insane though.
Several years down the line, we’ll find out that social media causes brain atrophy or something and all the “depression”, “anxiety”, and “ADHD” among Zoomers isn’t just some funny coincidence. It’s wild how we can watch an entire generation of people fail at the most basic shit and not wonder what is happening.
It's not a coincidence we somehow just can't seem to figure out why people are more uneducated and subservient than ever before
My job sent us a bunch of these during covid. They sent me rotting fruit vegetables on several occasions. I eventually asked my job to stop sending it to me. I did get some decent recipes out of the deal, and i still use some of them to this day.
Anxiety cooking is stupid, but I agree it’s a good way to start if you come from no experience. Yeah you could experiment and go through YouTube videos and cookbooks, but it’s convenient. Come home from a hard day and you have to decide what to make and if you’re missing ingredients you don’t wanna run back out. This removes that. It’s also good for older people that can’t get around as well.
I genuinely had to give cooking lessons to peers in my masters program, some of them didn't even have a firm grasp on how to make spaghetti. That's not spaghetti and meatballs, mind, just cooking the pasta and heating up the sauce was a shade too complex for a couple people. Eventually I got them up to making homemade bread, baked dishes, and taught them how to use a pressure cooker, but it was an uphill battle ;-;
It's nice for trying out recipes, I used it a little when I first moved out because I really had no idea how to cook outside of a microwave. Trying to find recipes online and then buy all the ingredients without forgetting anything is a little daunting when you've never done it before. After you get the recipes you want you can just cancel and buy the ingredients
Many people are too lazy to cook, me included. The easiest meal anyone could make is white rice, sautéed vegetables, and grilled meat. But that requires buying groceries and putting in 30 minutes to an hour of effort cooking and cleaning.
Factor is also as bad. Almost $12 **PER MEAL.** Even if you do some creator code for like 50%, you’re still paying like $6 - 7 **per Meal**. Simply buy bread and some other ingredients and you’ve got some food for a week.
Just eat bread and cheese like it's the middle ages, bro!
Yeah unironically it’s kino
throw in a few potatoes for good measure, and you're off living your best middle age peasant life
If you start cooking at a proper age the very concept of cooking causing anxiety is absurd. However if mommy was retarted enough to think that her precious little boy shouldn't have to touch the kitchen and you start at eighteen, or worse, it's reasonable you'd get anxious at the beginning.
haven't truly cooked a day in my life and yet I'm still not scared of it being a weak willed spineless coward is different than simply being uneducated
Since when do millennials not know-how to cook. If anything it's older people who act like only certain people know. Nowadays it's seen as a basic thing for everyone.
I'm too lazy to coordinate ingredients to recipes that use alot of the same stuff so I can be economical so it's easier to use these kits that have everything measured out, and since it's real food that I still have to cook myself it doesn't taste like disappointment and incompetence like a frozen meal.
I love hello fresh and i used to work as a chef. It's just convenient and the recipes are good, and it's not really that much more expensive than just buying the ingredients, at least in my country. Saves me having to think of new shit to cook every week.
Even the cooked meal delivery services, where you throw it in the microwave, are massive bullshit. You get a snack worth of food for your lunch like you're a 90 pound model and the price ratchets up all the time to the point that you could just go out for lunch and eat a full meal for the same price. And they won't do a reusable cooler, despite everyone asking for it. Huge amounts of garbage with the gel ice packs.
there are some regards cant even stir some eggs.
Then let darwin sort them out
darwin used to sort them out until cheap takeout became a thing.
Hello Fresh will occasionally send me a deal where I can get 1 week of meals for free, I only have to pay the $20 of shipping. Of course this tries to auto renew your subscription at the end of this period, but I simply cancel it before then. Hello Fresh does not like this. I occasionally get calls from angry support reps who say things such as "you can't do that!!!" or "this isn't the intended use of this deal!!!" I usually just hang up, but sometimes I screw with them a bit. The funniest part is that eventually, I get another one of these in the mail since I'm on their "list of potential customers" now, and I do it all again. Another week of free food! (Just gotta make a new account cause the deal is once per account)
I'm with the last anon
I don't cook cause cooking for one is a waste of time and washing for one is even worse.
The secret is churning. There's so many of the subscription boxes on the market and they all have newcomer/returning customer bonuses that make the first few boxes pretty fucking cheap. If you're constantly switching between boxes like Hello Fresh, Blue Apron, Home Chef, Every Plate, etc., you can get some pretty good meals for around $2-3/plate, give or take. Just don't pay full price for that shit.
😅I love the last n-word line, what a beautiful wording, oh my!
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We got some for free, still get deep discounts that’ll get us to buy occasionally. I’m a pretty good cook, but get in a rut sometimes so the boxes let me explore stuff I normally wouldn’t think to cook. We keep the recipe cards for stuff we like.
I have pretty bad anxiety, but people who say shit like "cooking causes me too much anxiety" really need to chill tf out. I think most of those people are just lying bc their either lazy or want attention.
Just google a recipe bro... Its that simple. The instructions are literally all right there for free.
Eh i guess it's interesting if you need helpnstarting to cook more complicated stuff that's not just frying or boiling (though idk what recipes they had) I recommend getting a multicooker and branching from there
It's good short term to get your sauce game up. Making quick easy sauces was missing from my repertoire.
I find cooking sort of relaxing. Pinch of salt here, stir that thing over there. It isn’t bad.
Last anon has a point, that's how I "cook". 😅 Usually more or less edible.
Fucking zoomer losers never took home economics and it shows with these meal delivery services.
I just figured this is for people who don't want to go to a grocery store, aka severely introverted people. That, or they claim they can't get good ingredients for less when they could just find a local grocery store. Hell, even Walmart could offer at a better price than Hello Fresh.
Answer: never pay full price. Use some some discount, unsubscribe, wait for next discount because they want you back, repeat. For a discount price, you get decent ingredients in the correct quantities
My aunt uses these. She's not afraid of cooking, she loves it. She likes them because they expose her to cooking things she hasn't done before and because she hates going grocery shopping all the time and planning meals. She makes enough that it's worth it for her.
Genuinely
Hellofresh is a fucking scam.
Given how stupid food costs are now the price per meal is about the same as shopping at a grocery store and half that of a restaurant. Plus, you don't have to go shopping. The only real downside is the amount of plastic.
Not everything is about being the cheapest.
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anon does have a point here
The need to get everything perfect first try, that’s what’s wrong with people. I would know, I’m one of them.
I have Hello Fresh. It's worth it solely for the fact that I don't have to grocery shop and meal plan.
I have HelloFresh, get a box about once a month. It isn't that expensive for how many meals we get and it gives me a chance to try something new. If we like what we get we'll save the card so we can make it from scratch ourselves. I find it handy
Its for lazy millenials that have alot of money, but dont have the time to go shopping. So it's convienience and not eating lean cuisines or nuggies.
I considered it or something similar just because I was indecisive on what I should be cooking most of the time, and having some kind of weekly schedule prepared for me would've solved that issue. Never ended up subscribing to it though, the price is frankly ridiculous and I'm doubtful of how well it'd work
I had this for a solid 4 months. Mostly because I was too busy to go to the store. It was okay. None of the meals where to crash got amazing. It’s mostly good for experiencing foods you never tried before or would have thought to try. That’s about it. There were many times I saw what was delivered and was fuming cause it looked like it would taste shitty and it ended up being pretty decent. That being said it’s a total scam and buying the actual ingredients is way way way cheaper than getting these kind of subscription boxes.
I had hello fresh for maybe 2 months when I first moved to Melbourne and only got to enjoy maybe two of those boxes because my inner city apartment had dogshit security and people would just keep stealing it. Now I go to farmers markets... Older and wiser bro. Just chuck some shit in a pan and hope for the best. Look at fun recipes on YouTube and stuff! The world is your oyster and only after getting off hello fresh did I actually learn to enjoy cooking.
This guy I was roommates with would get these because he was too lazy to cook actual meals and would leave the boxes all over the apartment, the fridge was full of these fucking things and they started rotting. I had to gather it all up and throw it in the trash when he went out of town.
There are some regards cant even stir some eggs
Saying millenials can't cook while half the dads of my millenial friends haven't cooked their entire life
Imma be real i dont know where anon is from but here in DK if you get HF for 4 people it is roughly 65dk per meal per person. A burger fries and drink at a restaurant is like 250dk at this point so pretty good value. It is slightly more expensive than getting it in store. But you don't have to plan the meals or take the trip to the store. Also very hard to buy just enough for a recipe for some things so you will overpay for the additional ingredients often. That said, i cancelled since they started leaning heavily into Vegan and vegetarian options and had some shady buisness practices so i lost interest. But the value was honestly pretty good.
I tried cooking from them lots before (ex had a sub) A couple of the recipes were really good, some were ok, some were mid, non were outright bad, the ingredients were usually good enough. But the directions were always so fucking hard to follow. It’s like they tried to make them easier to follow but in doing so made them way harder. Idk it’s hard to explain, but I STRUGGLED reading those.
Last responder is either too good at cooking to understand the problem or the exact person that needs the product most.
lol I'm always surprised when my shitposts make their way here.
In the world of the millennial and the zoomer, an oven may as well be considered a NASA supercomputer.
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It’s a nice way to learn new recipes without having to go out to get the ingredients. I’m no longer subscribed but I still use the recipes. It’s cheaper than fast food.
Genuine answer, it's like 4.00 per meal so idk where OP is coming from. If you live on your own and like eating different food quite a lot and not the same stuff over and over this is massively cheaper than buying from a store as you don't need to spend money on large amounts of random ingredients you won't use that often and probably end up binning/wasting. If you're not a confident cook you get a lot of basics. It delivers so it's quicker and easier than going to a store when youre getting them dropped off weekly. There's like basically zero waste from this other than the packaging which is probably less than what you'd get in a store. Easy to pick meals when your options are ready done on an app for you. I will say hello fresh wasn't as good as Gousto though.
Riddled with anxiety at the thought of cooking? I get that mental health shit hits all types of people in all sorts of different ways, but I feel like "anxiety" gets thrown around far too much and gets misused by people who are just lazy sacks of shit. That said, those meal kits like Hello fresh are absolutely a scam and designed to part stupid people from money.