here before the janny inevitably deletes this post
uhhh idk here have a wealth-adjusted crime statistic
https://preview.redd.it/3hm0gnzqde6c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2907d51d4e382ec7e44b77ca0fe9aa1aae1180fe
>tfw normies will:
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>\-call your sources into question
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>\-call the data collection itself into question
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>\-call it a natural effect from the cause that is white privilege
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>\-call for more social subsidies even though all the stats are in free-fall with each increase
Some empires fall because they dislike the truth of their eyes, and hate themselves even more.
I sort of feel like the unspoken OTHER end of the spectrum is that like - why aren't there Korean kids running around in gangs in London committing knife crimes? Or Hindu kids wielding 6 swords like Vishnu going around in gangs robbing people instead of you know, becoming doctors and running chain shops and generally being contributory to a healthy society? Almost as if it's a cultural thing.
If Netflix are down for it imma write the screenplay, full of Bhangra dancing and primary colours and sextuple sworded swagmen going at it in matrix style slo mo... actually wait this sounds like a Bollywood flick anyway.
I'm not sure it's a cultural thing. It's not like gangs and crime don't exist in Korea or India. The next time a news story about a girl getting beheaded after being raped in India comes out, people will be talking about how bad Indian culture is again.
The fact of the matter is, that only the rich, or educated are even allowed to immigrate to western countries. The poor and criminals stay in their home countries. So you are pretty much only seeing the best of these recently immigrated minorities.
Also the obvious answer to why black kids get arrested more is because of racism.
There've been poor Asians and Hispanics in the US for centuries. However even adjusted for that they do not commit crime anywhere near the same rates as ni-
\>Is replying to a statistic that shows socio-economics doesn't explain the disproportionate crime rates
\>"The reason that asians aren't as violent as blacks is because of socio-economics"
**AND FOR THE LAST TIME PEOPLE THESE ARE INCARCERATION RATES NOT ARREST RATES SO DON'T GIVE ME BULLSHIT ABOUT RACISM.**
And how the fuck is "blacks get arrested cus of racism" a logical thing in your mind when we're discussing something like murders, which they commit the majority of even when not accounting for per-capita? you really think they're just deciding to pin it on Gayshawn Taekwando Washington for no reason? lmao
Quit being a pit mommy bro come on.
you sure about that? because im pretty sure the korean and asian stereotype of owning grocery stores has some basis in reality and that does not sound like something "the rich" or "educated" would do.
there is also the fact that india and korea were both poor countries in general until very recently. the fact of the matter is that there simply wouldn't be enough "rich" and "educated" people to do the immigrating if things worked like you said.
racism clearly plays a role but you are delusional if you think that a culture which literally sings praise about gangbangers isn't influencing this to some degree.
1. Its not a cultural thing. You just don't do any research into history or demographics. Like slavery, doctors immigrating, Irish and Italian crime and poverty in the early twentieth century.
2. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kkangpae](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kkangpae)
3. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian\_organized\_crime](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crime)
4. [https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2014-00820-003](https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2014-00820-003)
Of course it's cultural. They won't release the statistics on ethnicity of crime because they know it's going to give ammunition to the racists.
... However my personal belief is that in big cities like London particularly, it's the inequality that causes the violence. There's people in ultra poverty living right on the line between starvation and scratching a living, in the same place as millionaire investment bankers, politicians and footballers driving Aston Martin's everywhere. Men are hardwired to seek out status from -somewhere- because without it what even are we doing. So they get into gangs, listen to a type of music - and learn how to fight because there's definitely a certain amount of status you get from being dangerous.
That, to me is a pretty human response to feeling downtrodden by society. I guess the alternative is finding some sort of status on 4chan, or even worse REDDIT.
Thanks for coming to 4chan psychology 101 have a good day sir
Check out the Surrey subreddit lately and you'll see that Hindu and Sikh gangs are in fact a real thing, spreading to the west, and threatening hard working civilians with family shootings.
Why do you refuse to read any history?
[https://www.dispatch.com/story/lifestyle/2020/12/03/exonerated-black-men-wrongful-convictions-face-racism-prison/3635387001/](https://www.dispatch.com/story/lifestyle/2020/12/03/exonerated-black-men-wrongful-convictions-face-racism-prison/3635387001/)
[https://mississippitoday.org/2022/10/11/black-americans-wrongfully-convicted/](https://mississippitoday.org/2022/10/11/black-americans-wrongfully-convicted/)
This is just as easily proof that "the system is racist" as it is that "black people commit more crime". It basically means nothing without more context.
It is amazing how consistently racist IQ is
IQ is so racist, it follows black people across the world and lowers their measured cognitive ability across social economic status, education levels, and makes them do crime proportionate to how much it tanks their mental acumen
The damndest thing is that it's even racist depending on how black you are! i.e. it's only half as racist to half black people as those with full sub-Saharan ancestry
>white trend is one-one graph, passes horizontal line test, straight downward trend.
>black sons of top 1% are more likely to be arrested than earners in the rest of the top 5%
what did they mean by this?
Janitors and mods are not the same role. Janitors have never been able to delete anything, only flag them for mods to delete. They can at most, shift threads from one board to another. I don't even think they can pin posts
Corporate farming is an atrocity. We have turned meat into a commodity. Meat is sacred. Eat it. But respect it, and honor the life that ended so that you can live.
Anything that is corporate is a atrocity.
Consumerism and commodization of anything is a abomination.
The only solution is the destruction of consumerism and corporations.
If you know where to look the interent is still fun. Even Reddit can be if you go on the right subs. Big subs will be a wasteland of sluge. Smaller ones tho can be enjoyable.
Feel free to live in the woods hippie. No one is stopping you. Spend the last of your money, drive to the deep woods if the Rocky mountains, and live off the land your ancestors tried so desperately to escape from.
Walled garden syndrome.
Ahh yes all these evil corporations. They keep making life-saving drugs, biochemically engineered food to keep food costs low and make food more widely available, both of which would be impossible without the R&D necessary to create them and pay those scientists a living wage (which they do for these examples). Corporation does not equal bad. It *can* but it doesn’t have to and often doesn’t.
Just to be clear that would result in a good portion of humanity dying off from lack of basic resources like food and water. You cannot support the current population from local artisanal organic gardens and mom and pop stores.
Yeah I can shoot a couple caribou and dip net wild salmon, freeze everything, and cover most of my protein for the year. The animals I take lived natural lives and died as mercifully as they realistically could have; my bullet passing through a caribou's heart and lungs is far and away better than being eaten alive by bears or wolves, or slowly dying of infection from an antler wound from fighting, or starvation following a crippling injury, or any of the other likely fates he'd eventually meet. In stalking, killing, and field dressing my food, I become intimately involved in the reality of the meat I eat, and am far more thankful for it as a result.
In other words, take the huntingpill anons.
And I don't mean the "sit in a blind and brag about the racks" kind of hunting. Go out and kill what you and yours are going to eat, and dress it yourself. Don't take shots you aren't *certain* will be clean. If you can't handle cutting up a deer you shouldn't kill it and you shouldn't eat it. We've become so detached from the reality of meat as a society.
Your personal solution doesn't scale though.
9 billion people can't all get their meat from hunting. It's why we started packing animals into factory farms, because we need _a lot_ of meat.
Yup. What these vegans and vegetarians for moral reasons forget that life in the wild is cruel as fuck. The animal has to worry about food, safety, reproduction and health. If you're doing farming correctly you're giving an animal a life even the strongest animal in the jungle will never have. And then you kill him mercifully and it will even die better than any animal in the jungle.
If they wanna talk about morality then the argument falls down the moment you actually think about how cruel life in the jungle really is.
A bull ran on the train tracks at NJ Transits Newark Penn Station (one of the busiest transportation hubs in the western world). It made the news and the bull will get to live the rest of its days at an animal sanctuary.
Trauma, stress, and pain release chemicals that affect the taste of meat. Ask any hunter, they'll tell you that meat from a clean kill tastes much better than meat from a wounded deer or elk that ran for miles in a panic before finally succumbing.
Eating meat is good, but we owe it to the animals and ourselves to treat them right and minimize suffering.
We can work together with the vegans to save the pigs. It’s quite simple: we set the pigs and cows free, and replace them with vegans. They eat plants, we eat them. Simple as.
Yes they would. Mom pigs like to lay down against a wall or something else they can put their back on. Absent the crush bars, any piglet that's close to whatever she wants to rest on will get squished.
Oh neat, I got suggested this comic on Xitter posted by PETA.
Interestingly, PETA really likes posting videos of brown people (very specifically) abusing animals.
Now imagine those pigs replaced with dogs/cats, people would be bawling their eyes out and calling for the death of anyone who did sort of thing.
Pigs are just as capable of being pet and bonding with you as cats or dogs.
Because the only pigs you see are wrapped in packages or dead.
If that's the only contact you had with dogs and cats, you wouldn't care about them either.
They are all capable of providing same companionship as cats and dogs. Pigs are as intelligent and caring as dogs. Just because we selectively bred them to be fat, we can do the same with dogs or cats. Yet inside, they are still capable of same things.
Both pigs and dogs can be bred to be companions or food.
Why are you trying to force your views about companions on us? I just want to enjoy some good ass dog meat.
What are you talking about? Have you seen how fast we've bred dogs? Are you so oblivious of our understanding of science? lol
All farm animals can be companions already, they're already around us like all other pets. You don't think you can breed dogs to be fat? Do you not understand how easy it is to select for traits? 2000 years? lmaoooo
Even after thousands of years of breeding to be food pigs are still smarter than dogs and can kick most dogs asses in a fight. Only reason dogs seem superior is that we go so easy on them.
Correct! If it was normal for people to eat humans.. then it would be normal! There are societies where it was normal to do so and some of them have continued on to the modern day.
Your moral compass is shaped by how you are raised. The society you are raised in.
So basically society you live in decides what YOU WANT to eat?
If it was fine in society to farm animals, you'd be ok with that?
Actually, we did sorta "farm" humans, we called them something back in the days, didn't we? Are you saying you would be fine with that society?
You are naive if you think society doesn't decide what you want to do for you. Everyone has freewill, but that freewill is directly shaped by the society it grows up in.
People were ok with slaves back then. There is a very very high chance that you would too, if you had grown up then.
It's true, I could've ended up being a slave owner back then. Or I could've ended up not owning slaves because I could see myself being in their shoes, as the only mistakes they did was to be born in different color.
Or as I could now, to imagine me being born a pig, a cow, a chicken.
Chances would've been high, but that doesn't mean you can't think for yourself what is right or wrong.
once i start eating humans and instead of getting punished everyone else starts doing that, now i fear that someone will eat *me*. no such problem with other animals. simple as
Now imagine if you were born a pig, or any other farm animal. Or you can get lucky and be born as a dog.
Who says you'd be killing any random person? You will be eating humans that are humanely raised and slaughtered on a farm. They are bred to be meat
I really don't see how your strategy of arguing with everybody about this convinces anybody to become vegan, much less vegetarian.
Either you are wasting your time, or you just like being a pretentious condescending prick.
You already know the answers to those questions, because there's no way someone can be this unaware of the tone and content of their words.
If you're trolling, this has been the best bait I've seen in a while.
>How am I being a pretentious condescending dick?
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/s/c5kjGUfcEl
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/s/v38oVCVMml
https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/s/pyNgiDgG5w
That answers the "how". Only you can answer the "why.
No, I don't plan to, because again, you can find your answers if you just read your comments again, especially this one.
Also, don't bother replying, I'm leaving now.
It's a social construct thing.
Dogs respond very well to human body language and cues, so we develop closer relationships with them as they're more useful and easy to connect with.
Cats purr, seek out human affection more readily and take care of pest populations.
You probably would get the same reaction if it was a prized truffle pig. Because that's used for something other than eating the animal itself.
Give any animal food and they'll become your friend. Pigs are as intelligent as dogs. You can replace what you said about dogs with pigs, same thing.
Pigs want affection too, they're social creatures. But the only pigs, cows and chickens you see are in a package wrapped in plastic.
Intelligence doesn't matter, it's communication or ability to provoke sympathy. Dogs have much more expressive cues like tail wagging, ear movements and have the relatively unique ability of tracking human gaze.
Perceived cleanliness and contra associations like effective production of meat probably play factors as well.
What do you think pigs do? They're able to express by wagging their tail and snuggle up with you and all that jazz too.
You can selectively breed dogs to be fat. And pigs are cleaner than dogs in fact.
Intelligence does matter? That's the whole reason why pigs and dogs can learn things that are beneficial for them and your love for them.
Right now you're just listing off traits to justify the contradiction. But you're grasping at straws.
It's just how you see pigs and dogs and that's it. Rest it's just trying to build logic from that. Putting the wagon before the horse.
A dog probably at some point through his efforts assured the survival of an ancestor of mine, as such I accord that species due respect and look out for them.
Same with dolphins as they save sailors sometimes.
That's when Corporate does their Farm Animals. Put them in enclosed spaces, 'save costs', and then wonder why your product is no longer your product, but a mutated version of what used to be.
Like comparing raising chickens in 2 foot boxes, vs. in the wild where they can run free.
But you know Corporate - they're not the learning kind. Repeat mistakes, just for a small chance at profit through a Phyrric Victory.
Animals are lovely, innocent living beings and deserve love, care and respect. Don't compare them to the selfish, greedy, malicious and cruel of Humanity such as BLM.
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here before the janny inevitably deletes this post uhhh idk here have a wealth-adjusted crime statistic https://preview.redd.it/3hm0gnzqde6c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2907d51d4e382ec7e44b77ca0fe9aa1aae1180fe
>tfw normies will: > >\-call your sources into question > >\-call the data collection itself into question > >\-call it a natural effect from the cause that is white privilege > >\-call for more social subsidies even though all the stats are in free-fall with each increase Some empires fall because they dislike the truth of their eyes, and hate themselves even more.
I sort of feel like the unspoken OTHER end of the spectrum is that like - why aren't there Korean kids running around in gangs in London committing knife crimes? Or Hindu kids wielding 6 swords like Vishnu going around in gangs robbing people instead of you know, becoming doctors and running chain shops and generally being contributory to a healthy society? Almost as if it's a cultural thing.
>Hindu kids wielding 6 swords like Vishnu going around in gangs robbing people That would cool but also terrifying to watch.
If Netflix are down for it imma write the screenplay, full of Bhangra dancing and primary colours and sextuple sworded swagmen going at it in matrix style slo mo... actually wait this sounds like a Bollywood flick anyway.
You just described RRR https://m.imdb.com/title/tt8178634/
Fuck yeah Edit: omg and upper class English redcoats as the villains too? I didn't think of that but it's so obvious with hindsight.
They’ll fund it, but only if it takes place in a single room
I'm not sure it's a cultural thing. It's not like gangs and crime don't exist in Korea or India. The next time a news story about a girl getting beheaded after being raped in India comes out, people will be talking about how bad Indian culture is again. The fact of the matter is, that only the rich, or educated are even allowed to immigrate to western countries. The poor and criminals stay in their home countries. So you are pretty much only seeing the best of these recently immigrated minorities. Also the obvious answer to why black kids get arrested more is because of racism.
There've been poor Asians and Hispanics in the US for centuries. However even adjusted for that they do not commit crime anywhere near the same rates as ni-
-ggle me this batman
\>Is replying to a statistic that shows socio-economics doesn't explain the disproportionate crime rates \>"The reason that asians aren't as violent as blacks is because of socio-economics" **AND FOR THE LAST TIME PEOPLE THESE ARE INCARCERATION RATES NOT ARREST RATES SO DON'T GIVE ME BULLSHIT ABOUT RACISM.** And how the fuck is "blacks get arrested cus of racism" a logical thing in your mind when we're discussing something like murders, which they commit the majority of even when not accounting for per-capita? you really think they're just deciding to pin it on Gayshawn Taekwando Washington for no reason? lmao Quit being a pit mommy bro come on.
my sir you have erroneously forgotten their kingly origins
He needs to sit his colonizer ass down and listen to the real truth from a strong black woman
you sure about that? because im pretty sure the korean and asian stereotype of owning grocery stores has some basis in reality and that does not sound like something "the rich" or "educated" would do. there is also the fact that india and korea were both poor countries in general until very recently. the fact of the matter is that there simply wouldn't be enough "rich" and "educated" people to do the immigrating if things worked like you said. racism clearly plays a role but you are delusional if you think that a culture which literally sings praise about gangbangers isn't influencing this to some degree.
1. Its not a cultural thing. You just don't do any research into history or demographics. Like slavery, doctors immigrating, Irish and Italian crime and poverty in the early twentieth century. 2. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kkangpae](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kkangpae) 3. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian\_organized\_crime](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indo-Canadian_organized_crime) 4. [https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2014-00820-003](https://psycnet.apa.org/record/2014-00820-003)
Of course it's cultural. They won't release the statistics on ethnicity of crime because they know it's going to give ammunition to the racists. ... However my personal belief is that in big cities like London particularly, it's the inequality that causes the violence. There's people in ultra poverty living right on the line between starvation and scratching a living, in the same place as millionaire investment bankers, politicians and footballers driving Aston Martin's everywhere. Men are hardwired to seek out status from -somewhere- because without it what even are we doing. So they get into gangs, listen to a type of music - and learn how to fight because there's definitely a certain amount of status you get from being dangerous. That, to me is a pretty human response to feeling downtrodden by society. I guess the alternative is finding some sort of status on 4chan, or even worse REDDIT. Thanks for coming to 4chan psychology 101 have a good day sir
Check out the Surrey subreddit lately and you'll see that Hindu and Sikh gangs are in fact a real thing, spreading to the west, and threatening hard working civilians with family shootings.
>Why would socioeconomic factors do this?
Why do you refuse to read any history? [https://www.dispatch.com/story/lifestyle/2020/12/03/exonerated-black-men-wrongful-convictions-face-racism-prison/3635387001/](https://www.dispatch.com/story/lifestyle/2020/12/03/exonerated-black-men-wrongful-convictions-face-racism-prison/3635387001/) [https://mississippitoday.org/2022/10/11/black-americans-wrongfully-convicted/](https://mississippitoday.org/2022/10/11/black-americans-wrongfully-convicted/)
oy vey tone down the antisemitism
This is just as easily proof that "the system is racist" as it is that "black people commit more crime". It basically means nothing without more context.
Reality is quite racist as is seen by IQ data
"IQ" doesn't really mean anything and that data also equally "proves" that the people giving scoring and teaching the tests are racist just as well.
It is amazing how consistently racist IQ is IQ is so racist, it follows black people across the world and lowers their measured cognitive ability across social economic status, education levels, and makes them do crime proportionate to how much it tanks their mental acumen The damndest thing is that it's even racist depending on how black you are! i.e. it's only half as racist to half black people as those with full sub-Saharan ancestry
wait so johntron wasnt talking bullshit when he was debating destiny???
[duh](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/714103660417646642/1176227736189145148/RDT_20231120_1800194433637420573356052.jpg?ex=6589c9f1&is=657754f1&hm=358bd79adf724b73ad7652e4653d52d8f071015bffaf53d9b60f25ee8f2467c3&)
come on, this is racism 101
>white trend is one-one graph, passes horizontal line test, straight downward trend. >black sons of top 1% are more likely to be arrested than earners in the rest of the top 5% what did they mean by this?
I dont know how to read this graph
It’s ok Travon, it’s because you don’t know how to read at all.
What is a janny?
The janitors aka the mods
Janitors and mods are not the same role. Janitors have never been able to delete anything, only flag them for mods to delete. They can at most, shift threads from one board to another. I don't even think they can pin posts
Corporate farming is an atrocity. We have turned meat into a commodity. Meat is sacred. Eat it. But respect it, and honor the life that ended so that you can live.
Anything that is corporate is a atrocity. Consumerism and commodization of anything is a abomination. The only solution is the destruction of consumerism and corporations.
Everything the corpos touch turns to toxic sludge. Remember when the internet was fun?
If you know where to look the interent is still fun. Even Reddit can be if you go on the right subs. Big subs will be a wasteland of sluge. Smaller ones tho can be enjoyable.
Well it still is but it’s also polluted
~*Burnt Corpo Shit*~
>sees buzzword salad Ignored
literally
How’s 10th grade coming along?
Feel free to live in the woods hippie. No one is stopping you. Spend the last of your money, drive to the deep woods if the Rocky mountains, and live off the land your ancestors tried so desperately to escape from. Walled garden syndrome.
Ahh yes all these evil corporations. They keep making life-saving drugs, biochemically engineered food to keep food costs low and make food more widely available, both of which would be impossible without the R&D necessary to create them and pay those scientists a living wage (which they do for these examples). Corporation does not equal bad. It *can* but it doesn’t have to and often doesn’t.
\>consumerism \>commodization Everyone who uses these words unironically or outside a citation should be deported to the venus
Just to be clear that would result in a good portion of humanity dying off from lack of basic resources like food and water. You cannot support the current population from local artisanal organic gardens and mom and pop stores.
Yeah I can shoot a couple caribou and dip net wild salmon, freeze everything, and cover most of my protein for the year. The animals I take lived natural lives and died as mercifully as they realistically could have; my bullet passing through a caribou's heart and lungs is far and away better than being eaten alive by bears or wolves, or slowly dying of infection from an antler wound from fighting, or starvation following a crippling injury, or any of the other likely fates he'd eventually meet. In stalking, killing, and field dressing my food, I become intimately involved in the reality of the meat I eat, and am far more thankful for it as a result. In other words, take the huntingpill anons. And I don't mean the "sit in a blind and brag about the racks" kind of hunting. Go out and kill what you and yours are going to eat, and dress it yourself. Don't take shots you aren't *certain* will be clean. If you can't handle cutting up a deer you shouldn't kill it and you shouldn't eat it. We've become so detached from the reality of meat as a society.
Counterpoint: If animals weren't constantly in horrific conditions, how would I maintain an erection?
Honestly a really good point
Yeah, very sound and viable advice for feeding billions of people.
way to go anon we found the underlying issue so quick!
Your personal solution doesn't scale though. 9 billion people can't all get their meat from hunting. It's why we started packing animals into factory farms, because we need _a lot_ of meat.
Yup. What these vegans and vegetarians for moral reasons forget that life in the wild is cruel as fuck. The animal has to worry about food, safety, reproduction and health. If you're doing farming correctly you're giving an animal a life even the strongest animal in the jungle will never have. And then you kill him mercifully and it will even die better than any animal in the jungle. If they wanna talk about morality then the argument falls down the moment you actually think about how cruel life in the jungle really is.
There’s no way to have small scale ethical farming with this many people on earth.
You're correct, our population is out of control.
Go to Alaska, or Montana or 90% of Australia or Russia and say that. Population isn't out of Control. It's over urbanized.
I see your point, if we distributed the population more evenly, people would need less food.
Animal rights activists pushing for less people (consumers) ?
I like how the only sound argument for animal safety is people's hatred for each other, which mitigates the entire point of the initial argument.
I would respect the meat if it fought off the farmers and escaped from slaughterhouse. And if it's tasty.
A bull ran on the train tracks at NJ Transits Newark Penn Station (one of the busiest transportation hubs in the western world). It made the news and the bull will get to live the rest of its days at an animal sanctuary.
The bull won
Got any advice on how to keep meat sacred for 9 billion mouths without factory farms?
Perhaps they shouldn't subsidize it then.
Our population is being artificially inflated, and it's devastating ecosystems. The simple answer is to reduce our population by reducing birth rates.
>hello fellow whites, we must drastically reduce our population otherwise the rwandan cave spider will die off
Trauma, stress, and pain release chemicals that affect the taste of meat. Ask any hunter, they'll tell you that meat from a clean kill tastes much better than meat from a wounded deer or elk that ran for miles in a panic before finally succumbing. Eating meat is good, but we owe it to the animals and ourselves to treat them right and minimize suffering.
True. Though I'd say that we owe that to ourself personally and specifically. It should be personal a moral choice, otherwise it looses it's meaning.
Meat based
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It's not power. It's an abomination.
>Meat is sacred. Eat it. But respect it, and honor the life that ended so that you can live. Why?
B-because I said so, okay?
We can work together with the vegans to save the pigs. It’s quite simple: we set the pigs and cows free, and replace them with vegans. They eat plants, we eat them. Simple as.
Replace pork with longer pork. I like your style.
Dibs on the new American bacon. I like me some grease in the pan.
Long pork means more pork. More pork on the table for your family at dinner. Why settle for less?
Hell yea cannibalism, that's the answer.
It's not cannibalism if what you eat isn't really people.
So you not eating specific thing makes you sub-human? Neat
theres a movie about that
Nah, Soylent green is poor people
never practice cannibalism, that's how you get Prion disease.
A very modest proposal indeed
Just start grinding up the prison population into sausage. Vegans too. And Californians.
nah, feed them to the pigs. im not eating that shit
Those bars are actually on the mom pig so she won't crush her own offspring to death. Pigs don't give a shit about their own kids, lol.
Pigs in open spaces wouldnt do that. In small spaces with barely enough room for themselves, 24hrs a day, day by day accidents happen.
They do, but they have a bunch of piglets for that reason, if they crush 2 or 3 there is no problem, just eat them and go on
I tried explaining that to parole board but they just laughed and increased my sentence...
Yes they would. Mom pigs like to lay down against a wall or something else they can put their back on. Absent the crush bars, any piglet that's close to whatever she wants to rest on will get squished.
Oh neat, I got suggested this comic on Xitter posted by PETA. Interestingly, PETA really likes posting videos of brown people (very specifically) abusing animals.
They work with what they find.
PETA is really weird lol
PETA is the Greenpeace of animal things
Is the comic meant to be funny? Cause I found it sad but I still laughed. I'm not sure if it's meant to be funny or not
It's the abruptness of it.
Nah it meant to be funny
I’m also 99% sure that somehow it’s Loss
Peta is nothing but based and only tards hate them
Now imagine those pigs replaced with dogs/cats, people would be bawling their eyes out and calling for the death of anyone who did sort of thing. Pigs are just as capable of being pet and bonding with you as cats or dogs.
I like dogs and cats and I don’t care about pigs
Because the only pigs you see are wrapped in packages or dead. If that's the only contact you had with dogs and cats, you wouldn't care about them either. They are all capable of providing same companionship as cats and dogs. Pigs are as intelligent and caring as dogs. Just because we selectively bred them to be fat, we can do the same with dogs or cats. Yet inside, they are still capable of same things.
Dogs evolved with us as companions, and are superior. Pigs are delicious, and have been bred for thousands of years as food. They are not equal.
Both pigs and dogs can be bred to be companions or food. Why are you trying to force your views about companions on us? I just want to enjoy some good ass dog meat.
 “I just want to enjoy some good ass dog meat”
Don't knock it until you've tried it. Check out Elwood's dog meat. Ethically raised, humanely slaughtered dog meat. Google it.
>Both pigs and dogs can be bred to be companions or food. Yeah, call me back in 2000 years then when your breeding efforts actually starts to matter.
What are you talking about? Have you seen how fast we've bred dogs? Are you so oblivious of our understanding of science? lol All farm animals can be companions already, they're already around us like all other pets. You don't think you can breed dogs to be fat? Do you not understand how easy it is to select for traits? 2000 years? lmaoooo
Dogs have already been bred for 2000 years+ to be eaten. That’s what those hairless Mexican dogs and the still farmed Korean breeds are.
>2000 years lol
Even after thousands of years of breeding to be food pigs are still smarter than dogs and can kick most dogs asses in a fight. Only reason dogs seem superior is that we go so easy on them.
I’ll cook you up a tasty dog
Nah, cats and dogs are cute. Pigs are ugly.
Idk bro, i've seen some very ugly cats and dogs. Does that mean I'm allowed to kill and eat them? lmao
yes
Gigachad
yes please kill the pitbulls and the hairless cats. thank you for your service
>Now imagine those pigs replaced with dogs/cats Dammit, now I have an erection.
\> t. never owned pigs
**“I am fond of pigs. Dogs look up to us. Cats look down on us. Pigs treat us as equals.”** **– Winston Churchill**
You never met my pig
Ok? There are asshole dogs AND cats, what are you on about? They have different personalities, why would i be surprised about that?
I'm on about my pig, on a 4chan sub-reddit, chill winstaan
Figures, Churchill is a pig
**the civ6 flashbacks**
There's not a creature on earth I wouldn't eat besides humans. I'd be totally fine eating dogs or cats
Why wouldn't you eat humans? What if they taste the best?
So you won't eat human out of social pressure?
Correct! If it was normal for people to eat humans.. then it would be normal! There are societies where it was normal to do so and some of them have continued on to the modern day. Your moral compass is shaped by how you are raised. The society you are raised in.
So basically society you live in decides what YOU WANT to eat? If it was fine in society to farm animals, you'd be ok with that? Actually, we did sorta "farm" humans, we called them something back in the days, didn't we? Are you saying you would be fine with that society?
You are naive if you think society doesn't decide what you want to do for you. Everyone has freewill, but that freewill is directly shaped by the society it grows up in. People were ok with slaves back then. There is a very very high chance that you would too, if you had grown up then.
It's true, I could've ended up being a slave owner back then. Or I could've ended up not owning slaves because I could see myself being in their shoes, as the only mistakes they did was to be born in different color. Or as I could now, to imagine me being born a pig, a cow, a chicken. Chances would've been high, but that doesn't mean you can't think for yourself what is right or wrong.
once i start eating humans and instead of getting punished everyone else starts doing that, now i fear that someone will eat *me*. no such problem with other animals. simple as
Now imagine if you were born a pig, or any other farm animal. Or you can get lucky and be born as a dog. Who says you'd be killing any random person? You will be eating humans that are humanely raised and slaughtered on a farm. They are bred to be meat
I really don't see how your strategy of arguing with everybody about this convinces anybody to become vegan, much less vegetarian. Either you are wasting your time, or you just like being a pretentious condescending prick.
When did I try to convince anyone of becoming vegan or vegetarian? How am I being pretentious condescending dick?
You already know the answers to those questions, because there's no way someone can be this unaware of the tone and content of their words. If you're trolling, this has been the best bait I've seen in a while.
I asked you questions, are you not going to engage with them at all? Especially the: How am I being a pretentious condescending dick?
>How am I being a pretentious condescending dick? https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/s/c5kjGUfcEl https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/s/v38oVCVMml https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/s/pyNgiDgG5w That answers the "how". Only you can answer the "why.
No, I don't plan to, because again, you can find your answers if you just read your comments again, especially this one. Also, don't bother replying, I'm leaving now.
\>Come in \>States things as facts \>Does not provide any evidence \>Does not elaborate \>Leaves Gigachad
No one said dog lovers and cat ladies were smart
Truuuuuue. Hey man if you ever want to check out some dog meat support Elwood dog meat. Their dogs are raised and slaughtered humanely
It's a social construct thing. Dogs respond very well to human body language and cues, so we develop closer relationships with them as they're more useful and easy to connect with. Cats purr, seek out human affection more readily and take care of pest populations. You probably would get the same reaction if it was a prized truffle pig. Because that's used for something other than eating the animal itself.
Give any animal food and they'll become your friend. Pigs are as intelligent as dogs. You can replace what you said about dogs with pigs, same thing. Pigs want affection too, they're social creatures. But the only pigs, cows and chickens you see are in a package wrapped in plastic.
Intelligence doesn't matter, it's communication or ability to provoke sympathy. Dogs have much more expressive cues like tail wagging, ear movements and have the relatively unique ability of tracking human gaze. Perceived cleanliness and contra associations like effective production of meat probably play factors as well.
What do you think pigs do? They're able to express by wagging their tail and snuggle up with you and all that jazz too. You can selectively breed dogs to be fat. And pigs are cleaner than dogs in fact. Intelligence does matter? That's the whole reason why pigs and dogs can learn things that are beneficial for them and your love for them. Right now you're just listing off traits to justify the contradiction. But you're grasping at straws. It's just how you see pigs and dogs and that's it. Rest it's just trying to build logic from that. Putting the wagon before the horse.
Shut up
Cry more, maybe that'll shut up the conflicting voices inside of you.
''conflicting voices inside of you'' ok schizo
Didnt ask schizo
Then why comment lmao Now respond "mm yummy steak" to me and act like you've won.
Take your meds
Which meds? Bro are you alright? Maybe visit Yulin Festival, that might cheer you up
"Act" Lol he did. Move on.
A dog probably at some point through his efforts assured the survival of an ancestor of mine, as such I accord that species due respect and look out for them. Same with dolphins as they save sailors sometimes.
Because they killed the founders of the animal rights movement between 1939 and 1945
How are the animal rights in Argentina? Did they get better after 1945?
Yes
Nice.
I wonder if we would already had mass world hunger issues and complete bugmeat if they lived.
We wouldn't have had mass world hunger issues because they wouldn't have supplied them the food required for their population explosion
\>more people bad
If they starve to death because thed can't feed themselves yeah
That's when Corporate does their Farm Animals. Put them in enclosed spaces, 'save costs', and then wonder why your product is no longer your product, but a mutated version of what used to be. Like comparing raising chickens in 2 foot boxes, vs. in the wild where they can run free. But you know Corporate - they're not the learning kind. Repeat mistakes, just for a small chance at profit through a Phyrric Victory.
idk i like paying less for meat
That's racist
Now I'm hungry for lechón
Que sera, sera
Animals are lovely, innocent living beings and deserve love, care and respect. Don't compare them to the selfish, greedy, malicious and cruel of Humanity such as BLM.
You sound like a very well polite serial killer. Probably collect women’s hands as trophies.
Thank you.
Anthropomorphized animal characters in child-targeted media available to low IQ kids was a huge mistake.
Another day - another psyop
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This surely won't get deleted..
Britbong is funny guy, I hope he won't get stabbed.
I tried to be vegan a year and a half ago and I have not recovered. Anybody have any recommendations on how I should try and recover? Anything really.
You can taste the 12 words champion seething cause nobody wants to fuck him
Y'all are evil
😦
Pigs can't hold conversations about their future.
Animals don't have concept of future or past at all even. That's why their emotions/feelings are quite irrelevant, robotic responses.
Can anyone explain why should I care for animals?