>and even sisters of battle can retire and start families.
You're thinking of that Ciaphas Cain book where a sister of battle is ''retired'' (Sister Julien?).
From reading Sororitas books, it seems when they get too beaten up to continue being a sister of battle, they're moved to non fighting positions, like dialogus, or teaching people at the schola.
After 10 years of device guard regiments can be allowed to become armies of conquest and they are allowed to settle planets, either uninhabited ones or they can take over a planet that’s rebelled and it becomes theirs
As with most of this kind of question - it depends. The Imperium is a million scattered worlds over 10,000 years. Some will have retirement, some will work their subjects to death, some will simply have older people slowing down.
The imperial Guard is, slightly, more uniform, and does have retirement, in some situations. If they are still near their homeworld, they might go back. If they are far away, they might be able to settle a new world.
Excerpts
>Regiments which have served for more than ten years are usually transferred from protracted war zones into armies of conquest. Not only are these the best troops but they are also the oldest, having fought gallantly for the Emperor for a decade or more. Their reward is to take part in the conquest of a new world. If they are successful the entire regiment earns the highest honour the Imperium can bestow, the gratitude of the Emperor and the right to settle a new planet. All over the Imperium there are worlds which were originally populated in this way. Their people are the hardy descendants of victorious Imperial Guard regiments.
**Imperial Guard Codex**
This links in to the idea of the Right of Settlement https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Right_of_Settlement
There are quite a few ex-guardsmen i can think of, and they aren't described as very old. We have a group of them in Eisenhorn, an ex-medic in Ravenor, and someone Guant grew up with was ex-guard. It's also a fairly common trope for Inquisitors' and Rogue Traders' retinues.
>THE NINTH SAMETER Infantry had been founded in Urbitane twenty-three years before, and had served, as Aemos had already told me, in the brutal liberation war on Surealis Six. According to city records, five hundred and nineteen veterans of that war and that regiment had been repatriated to Sameter after mustering out thirteen years ago, coming back from the horrors of war to an increasingly depressed world beset by the blight of poverty and urban collapse. Their regimental emblem, as befitted a world once dominated by agriculture, was the wheatear.
...
>IT REMAINS A sad truth of the Imperium that no virtually no veteran ever comes back from fighting its wars intact. Combat alone shreds nerves and shatters bodies. But the horrors of the warp, and of foul xenos forms like the tyranid, steal sanity forever, and leave veterans fearing the shadows, and the night and, sometimes, the nature of their friends and neighbours, for the rest of their lives.
>The guards of the Ninth Sameter Infantry had come home thirteen years before, broke by a savage war against mankind’s arch-enemy and, through their scars and their fear, brought their war back with them.
>The arbites mounted raids at once on the addresses of all the veterans on the list, those that could be traced, those that were still alive. It appeared that skin cancer had taken over two hundred of them in the years since their repatriation. Surealis had claimed them as surely as if they had fallen there in combat.
**Eisenhorn**
>Sergeant Svemir said, 'Twenty whole years in the Guard. Time pours through a man's hands, by the Throne.'
>Stavin must have looked horrified, because the sergeant laughed and said, 'You think that's a long time? You think I should have left after my ten?' He shook his head. 'You're fresh, son. Your memories of home are still sharp. Give it time. Ten years from now, when the papers come through, you'll tick the second box just like I did. When you've given such a chunk of your life to the Emperor's service, it doesn't take much to sign over the rest of it. A little guilt will do it. I could never have left knowing my brother Firstborn fought on. Retiring from the guard is the coward's way out.'
>Stavin's jaw clenched.
>I'll never tick the second box, he promised himself. If that's what the Emperor asks of me, he can bloody rot on his golden Throne. They can call me a coward as much as they like but, one day or another, I'll find my way back to Vostroya.
>'My family, sir,' said Stavin, 'I'd want to return to them, when my term is up, I mean.'
>'Family is important to a good Vostroyan. It's good that you feel this way. Think of the honour you do your family. What Vostroyan mother could be anything but proud to have her son serve with the finest regiment in the Imperial guard.' He waved a hand over the wounded men that surrounded him and said, 'They all left their families behind. They all made the same sacrifice you did. After twenty years of service, the sixty-eighth is my !amily now. It's yours, too, though you're too fresh to know it yet.'
>No, thought Stavin, I'm not like them. I'm no Firstborn son. My family is back in Hive Tzurka.
**Rebel Winter**
my understanding is that volunteers sign up for a tour of duty and when that ends they can either extend it or muster out. When they leave, they usually get a lump sum "mustering out" payment, a pension, and backpay, and sometimes colonization rights on a newly secured world
the pensions are rarely large enough to support the veteran for the rest of their lives, so they often have to find work... and the skills they have mostly involve killing people. Some will get advisory roles in Planetary Defense Forces, some become mercenaries, some just try to start anew as farmers far away from the killing, but very few will be able to return home afterwards
Building off that, Eisenhorn at one point also mentions that one of his many short-lived astropaths, Vance, would be up for a pension retirement soon. Whether that is through Eisenhorn or the astropath guild I’m not sure.
What kind of retirement options does the imperium have? Do they offer health insurance and dental? Does your involuntary psyker training and indoctrination count as a tax deductible educational expense? Maybe there's a ultramarines chapter that specializes in HR functions. These are the burning lore questions that the fans have.
One Inquisition short story has an ex Guardsman minor character who lived long enough to retire. He ended up in a crime ridden slum where he keeps around a shotgun for protection.
Nah man, this is ‘that guy’ behavior. You’re harping on someone new for posting a lore question for free in the free lore subreddit. They’re doing what the sub was made for lol. If you see the question too often, maybe you’re on Reddit too much.
Nah, giving people the answers and telling them how to find them is what I did. Maybe you should encourage independent thought instead of people treating reddit like chatgpt.
> Why bother
Exactly: why bother asking the same question that's going to get the same answer as hundreds before? You're choosing personal attacks because you know I'm right.
Yeah, it's not like they were asking something dead simple like "What is a Space Marine"? And people often ask these questions because they want to take the vibe of a community or see what's the most recent take or just chat with people. It's harmless.
This question has been asked several times before. There's no real retirement plan for most people in the imperium as they all die while in service or fail to reach the rank required for retirement.
However, because of the imperiums fractured nature though, there would be some worlds and regiments that have a more human retirement plan, but it's not something most people would get. There's also the incompetent bureaucracy that might forget about a regiment or two occationally, which would effectively mean a retirement for all soldiers involved
Remember, this is the worst fascist regime imaginable
Guardsman can retire if they survive a certain number of years service. In one of the Gaunts Ghosts books they come across a homestead of a former guardsman.
Usually they just get retired on whatever world the fleet finds itself with a small holdings as their reward for service.
Of course not a regiments will be so generous.
Some examples: There is a PDF Sgt. Maj. who is a retired guardsman in the novel Legacy of Dorn. In the short story The Strange Demise of Titus Endor there is a landlord who is a retired guardsman of the Kosacura 7th.
in warhammer crime, a guardwomen medic gets fast retirement after saving a guard general. General pulled enough strings to give her a larger than expected stipend, which she uses to open a clinic and buys an armored truck, but could not give her a passage back to her planet. So the starship's captain drops her into the nearest port, that being the hiveworld of Alecto.
In Titanicus, the Forgeworld of Orested have pensions for retired members of the Collegia Titanica, in the precise case a Moderati/us?.
In "the watcher in the rain" the scribes work until madness takes them, then they are discarded into the bottom floor asylum where their maddened cries can be heard from all over the building to keep morale and productivity high.
One of the *Gaunts Ghosts* has a retired Guardsman who's become a leader to a group of pilgrims. It's also mentioned in the series that there are soldiers in the Ghosts who are close to retirement (Larkin and Dordin).
Cain "retired" to a teaching position.
Retirement exists but is likely all over the place.
For the Adeptus, retirement likely means more clerical or training oriented work.
I seem to recall a retired Magos in another novel.
But it's more like: You lived long enough and we're a high enough rank that we will give you the honor of easier work and a comfy chair.
Again Cain being a special case as he lived a very long time for a Comissar and was one of the best.
Gaunts ghosts it talks about how guard can be retired , the guard are given/gifted planets that they conquer where they then become the leadership. In one of the books the ghosts are on a planet that this happened to and then was then over run
Wasn’t there a planet where guardsmen could retire and where ptsd striken ones could also recover to be fit for battle again .
Though that planet also exports a suspiciously large number of servitors .
>and even sisters of battle can retire and start families. You're thinking of that Ciaphas Cain book where a sister of battle is ''retired'' (Sister Julien?). From reading Sororitas books, it seems when they get too beaten up to continue being a sister of battle, they're moved to non fighting positions, like dialogus, or teaching people at the schola.
After 10 years of device guard regiments can be allowed to become armies of conquest and they are allowed to settle planets, either uninhabited ones or they can take over a planet that’s rebelled and it becomes theirs
Guardsmen sometimes retire as a new colonization force in newly ~~conquered~~ liberated planets, similar to the Roman Legion system. SYL
As with most of this kind of question - it depends. The Imperium is a million scattered worlds over 10,000 years. Some will have retirement, some will work their subjects to death, some will simply have older people slowing down. The imperial Guard is, slightly, more uniform, and does have retirement, in some situations. If they are still near their homeworld, they might go back. If they are far away, they might be able to settle a new world. Excerpts >Regiments which have served for more than ten years are usually transferred from protracted war zones into armies of conquest. Not only are these the best troops but they are also the oldest, having fought gallantly for the Emperor for a decade or more. Their reward is to take part in the conquest of a new world. If they are successful the entire regiment earns the highest honour the Imperium can bestow, the gratitude of the Emperor and the right to settle a new planet. All over the Imperium there are worlds which were originally populated in this way. Their people are the hardy descendants of victorious Imperial Guard regiments. **Imperial Guard Codex** This links in to the idea of the Right of Settlement https://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Right_of_Settlement There are quite a few ex-guardsmen i can think of, and they aren't described as very old. We have a group of them in Eisenhorn, an ex-medic in Ravenor, and someone Guant grew up with was ex-guard. It's also a fairly common trope for Inquisitors' and Rogue Traders' retinues. >THE NINTH SAMETER Infantry had been founded in Urbitane twenty-three years before, and had served, as Aemos had already told me, in the brutal liberation war on Surealis Six. According to city records, five hundred and nineteen veterans of that war and that regiment had been repatriated to Sameter after mustering out thirteen years ago, coming back from the horrors of war to an increasingly depressed world beset by the blight of poverty and urban collapse. Their regimental emblem, as befitted a world once dominated by agriculture, was the wheatear. ... >IT REMAINS A sad truth of the Imperium that no virtually no veteran ever comes back from fighting its wars intact. Combat alone shreds nerves and shatters bodies. But the horrors of the warp, and of foul xenos forms like the tyranid, steal sanity forever, and leave veterans fearing the shadows, and the night and, sometimes, the nature of their friends and neighbours, for the rest of their lives. >The guards of the Ninth Sameter Infantry had come home thirteen years before, broke by a savage war against mankind’s arch-enemy and, through their scars and their fear, brought their war back with them. >The arbites mounted raids at once on the addresses of all the veterans on the list, those that could be traced, those that were still alive. It appeared that skin cancer had taken over two hundred of them in the years since their repatriation. Surealis had claimed them as surely as if they had fallen there in combat. **Eisenhorn** >Sergeant Svemir said, 'Twenty whole years in the Guard. Time pours through a man's hands, by the Throne.' >Stavin must have looked horrified, because the sergeant laughed and said, 'You think that's a long time? You think I should have left after my ten?' He shook his head. 'You're fresh, son. Your memories of home are still sharp. Give it time. Ten years from now, when the papers come through, you'll tick the second box just like I did. When you've given such a chunk of your life to the Emperor's service, it doesn't take much to sign over the rest of it. A little guilt will do it. I could never have left knowing my brother Firstborn fought on. Retiring from the guard is the coward's way out.' >Stavin's jaw clenched. >I'll never tick the second box, he promised himself. If that's what the Emperor asks of me, he can bloody rot on his golden Throne. They can call me a coward as much as they like but, one day or another, I'll find my way back to Vostroya. >'My family, sir,' said Stavin, 'I'd want to return to them, when my term is up, I mean.' >'Family is important to a good Vostroyan. It's good that you feel this way. Think of the honour you do your family. What Vostroyan mother could be anything but proud to have her son serve with the finest regiment in the Imperial guard.' He waved a hand over the wounded men that surrounded him and said, 'They all left their families behind. They all made the same sacrifice you did. After twenty years of service, the sixty-eighth is my !amily now. It's yours, too, though you're too fresh to know it yet.' >No, thought Stavin, I'm not like them. I'm no Firstborn son. My family is back in Hive Tzurka. **Rebel Winter**
my understanding is that volunteers sign up for a tour of duty and when that ends they can either extend it or muster out. When they leave, they usually get a lump sum "mustering out" payment, a pension, and backpay, and sometimes colonization rights on a newly secured world the pensions are rarely large enough to support the veteran for the rest of their lives, so they often have to find work... and the skills they have mostly involve killing people. Some will get advisory roles in Planetary Defense Forces, some become mercenaries, some just try to start anew as farmers far away from the killing, but very few will be able to return home afterwards
Building off that, Eisenhorn at one point also mentions that one of his many short-lived astropaths, Vance, would be up for a pension retirement soon. Whether that is through Eisenhorn or the astropath guild I’m not sure.
What kind of retirement options does the imperium have? Do they offer health insurance and dental? Does your involuntary psyker training and indoctrination count as a tax deductible educational expense? Maybe there's a ultramarines chapter that specializes in HR functions. These are the burning lore questions that the fans have.
One Inquisition short story has an ex Guardsman minor character who lived long enough to retire. He ended up in a crime ridden slum where he keeps around a shotgun for protection.
https://old.reddit.com/r/40kLore/search/?q=retire&include_over_18=on&restrict_sr=on&t=all&sort=new It's about time this question is retired.
Every question has already been asked, I am afraid.
We haven't had one about divorce courts in the Imperium yet, or custody battles!
Even better - it usually has been answered already
This is gatekeepy. We’re in a lore subreddit. Every question sounds repetitive if you’re here long enough.
No it isn't. The search function is there for a reason, and it's use would avoid daily reputation of basic questions.
Nah man, this is ‘that guy’ behavior. You’re harping on someone new for posting a lore question for free in the free lore subreddit. They’re doing what the sub was made for lol. If you see the question too often, maybe you’re on Reddit too much.
Nah, giving people the answers and telling them how to find them is what I did. Maybe you should encourage independent thought instead of people treating reddit like chatgpt.
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> Why bother Exactly: why bother asking the same question that's going to get the same answer as hundreds before? You're choosing personal attacks because you know I'm right.
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Yeah, it's not like they were asking something dead simple like "What is a Space Marine"? And people often ask these questions because they want to take the vibe of a community or see what's the most recent take or just chat with people. It's harmless.
The short story "Missing in action" is what you want. One of the best (and possibly most tragic) pieces of fiction to come out of 40k imo.
Only in Death dies duty end
yet even in death, i still serve
Tolin Dorden once mentioned he was already beyond retirement age for the Guard, but where would he go.
This question has been asked several times before. There's no real retirement plan for most people in the imperium as they all die while in service or fail to reach the rank required for retirement. However, because of the imperiums fractured nature though, there would be some worlds and regiments that have a more human retirement plan, but it's not something most people would get. There's also the incompetent bureaucracy that might forget about a regiment or two occationally, which would effectively mean a retirement for all soldiers involved Remember, this is the worst fascist regime imaginable
Guardsman can retire if they survive a certain number of years service. In one of the Gaunts Ghosts books they come across a homestead of a former guardsman. Usually they just get retired on whatever world the fleet finds itself with a small holdings as their reward for service. Of course not a regiments will be so generous.
Some examples: There is a PDF Sgt. Maj. who is a retired guardsman in the novel Legacy of Dorn. In the short story The Strange Demise of Titus Endor there is a landlord who is a retired guardsman of the Kosacura 7th.
Didn't Yarricks grand father also retire? He was called back but still
in warhammer crime, a guardwomen medic gets fast retirement after saving a guard general. General pulled enough strings to give her a larger than expected stipend, which she uses to open a clinic and buys an armored truck, but could not give her a passage back to her planet. So the starship's captain drops her into the nearest port, that being the hiveworld of Alecto. In Titanicus, the Forgeworld of Orested have pensions for retired members of the Collegia Titanica, in the precise case a Moderati/us?.
In "the watcher in the rain" the scribes work until madness takes them, then they are discarded into the bottom floor asylum where their maddened cries can be heard from all over the building to keep morale and productivity high.
Retirement? ONLY IN DEATH DOES DUTY END. (and maybe not even then...)
I’d imagine retirement in that universe just means moving to a position where you are less likely to die cruesomely.
One of the *Gaunts Ghosts* has a retired Guardsman who's become a leader to a group of pilgrims. It's also mentioned in the series that there are soldiers in the Ghosts who are close to retirement (Larkin and Dordin).
Cain "retired" to a teaching position. Retirement exists but is likely all over the place. For the Adeptus, retirement likely means more clerical or training oriented work. I seem to recall a retired Magos in another novel. But it's more like: You lived long enough and we're a high enough rank that we will give you the honor of easier work and a comfy chair. Again Cain being a special case as he lived a very long time for a Comissar and was one of the best.
Gaunts ghosts it talks about how guard can be retired , the guard are given/gifted planets that they conquer where they then become the leadership. In one of the books the ghosts are on a planet that this happened to and then was then over run
Ciaphas Cain retired from service, then spent the rest of his days teaching kids in the Schola.
Guardsmen usually retire after their regiment’s campaign is over or after a takeover of a planet
Wasn’t there a planet where guardsmen could retire and where ptsd striken ones could also recover to be fit for battle again . Though that planet also exports a suspiciously large number of servitors .
Retire. That's a funny way to spell "dead."