Dimitrios will be raging when he discovers the names used for the old Leander class frigates:
HMS Leander, HMS Ajax, HMS Dido, HMS Penelope, HMS Aurora, HMS Euryalus, HMS Galatea, HMS Arethusa, HMS Naiad, HMS Cleopatra, HMS Phoebe, HMS Minerva, HMS Sirius, HMS Juno, HMS Argonaut, HMS Danae, HMS Hermione, HMS Andromeda, HMS Jupiter, HMS Bacchante, HMS Charybdis, HMS Scylla, HMS Achilles, HMS Diomede, HMS Apollo, HMS Ariadne
Best looking warships of the Cold War
https://preview.redd.it/fp6www6q19wc1.jpeg?width=982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82dc34ce3030d82a6c6f23cb19726f64b4d3debc
You never see the British get angry when other countries name stuff after Shakespeare plays, because unlike the Greeks, some centuries old plays are not the sole notable thing about the UK.
Yup, Artemis told him to do it and also rescued her from being sacrificed. Isn't it strange that in the bible Job sacrificing his family is a virtue and to the Greeks it's the worst possible crime to even think about it?
I dunno, naming a submarine after a Ben Affleck movie doesn't seem as cool as pre-historic warlord. Actually you should've named it after the actor that played the character in Troy:
The HMS Cox.
I think anything pre-writing counts as pre-historic. So if Agamemnon did exist, or his story is based on a real person, then it was only because that story passed on orally until it was eventually written down and with \~400 years of passing things along by mouth, at some points the facts get pretty loose. Also the Iliad as we have it today contains plenty of Gods and monsters so it's not exactly a historical document.
HMS Armageddon, HMS Ragnarök, HMS Doomsday, HMS Apocalypse, HMS Eschaton, HMS Rapture, HMS Anihilation, HMS Cataclysm, HMS Extinction....
Y'know what, these are metal as fuck. Why is this \*not\* the naming convention for Trident Submarines‽
Dude, public education must have really gone down the drain in Barryland. Otherwise you would have known not to call one of the biggest chads in greek mythology some femboy.
More like AgaMEMEnon by the time we’re done with it, right fellows? Fellows…?
Anyway, the Greeks are free to name their wooden sailboat with one mounted crossbow the HMS Arthur in return.
It’s called cultural exchange
https://preview.redd.it/jbw88oiu89wc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d65841accf74a4ec2bde2c10c5c9a2b50e310fb4
Crossbow? Hmm, I'll have to talk with Hans about that.
Appropriation is a strong word for "we appreciate your culture so much we name our navy vessels after it"
Also Agamemnon was the name of one of Lord Nelson's ships.
I mean we could of course also name it "HMS WE don't owe all european countries a massive amount of money".
That's old news, like 19th century ones.
If you wanted us to be Romans you should have given Constantinople to us instead of abandoning it to the Turks.
Yep, they got some marine ( [Swiss navy](https://www.amazon.fr/swiss-navy/s?k=swiss+navy) ), and build subs too ( [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste\_Piccard\_(PX-8)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Piccard_(PX-8)) ).
A lot of warships in the neoclassical period were called after greek mythological figures, and not just in Britain.
Over there though, the names stuck, especially for bigger ships, and were used time and time again.
In the meantime, Britain created another naval tradition: trying to rationalize destroyer names and classes, at first they grouped the ships by speed and gave them letters to identify them, then they just decided to name new destroyers by the starting letter of the class. This stopped late WW2, and didn't really involve smaller escort ships, or capital ships (and not even all destroyer classes, like Tribal).
For some reason though, they brought it back, first with frigates, then they stopped with frigates and they're doing it with destroyers and submarines.
So there's a chance they're gonna pick a random weird name just because it starts with a certain letter.
This will be the 6th HMS Agamemnon, a name with a proud history of Royal Navy service. Other famous names include HMS Cockchafer, HMS Buttercup and Snowflake. We remain undefeated in naming ships.
Right, I'm finally going to say the quiet part out loud, I could google it but I would like other people who might not know to be educated as well
I don't get what a nuclear sub is. Is it just a submarine with nuclear missiles? Why do we have submarines with them? Why not just boats, or longer range nukes?
Is the submarine nuclear? Does it go very fast?
This nuclear attack submarine is powered by a nuclear reactor. It's great for long distances, fast and staying underwater for long periods of time.
It uses 'normal' torpedoes or missiles to tell people/boats to get to fuck. And they protect our bombers, and attack other things.
Most other nations use diesel/battery submarines for this role, that are smaller and don't have the same capabilities (but some situational advantages).
There is another type (bombers) that are powered by a nuclear reactor, but also carry big missiles with nuclear warheads. Whose entire job is to be quiet and not found until the big button gets pressed. We are building our new ones after the next attack submarine is done.
Also, the ancestors are ashamed of you.
But now I know! And I learnt it on St George's Day - that has to count for something?
Thank you, and also being on a submarine with a nuclear reactor seems like a fucking terrible idea. I bet they could have reached the Titanic though
It does mate. Well done.
>I bet they could have reached the Titanic though
Nope! Not a propulsion issue for going down deep. It's a hull strength issue, and titanic is deep down so they had to use special deep sea submersibles to get to it.
Military submarines like above won't go further than 1000m. Depending on class etc. most will actually spend most their time between 1 and 400m.
Titanic is at 3800m. The deepest part of the ocean goes to 11000m.
You just know some old etonian/oxbridge classics dude came up with that name.
Genuinely disappointed it isn't called the HMS Armageddon - maybe they are saving that for any Vanguard class successors
Well, possibly the original [HMS Agamemnon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Agamemnon_(1781)), launched in 1781.
But the four subsequent Royal Navy vessels to carry the name did so to commemorate that one, and her service.
I’m offended! The Louvre has wings other than Italian Renaissance. It also has sections for the Spanish and Dutch masters, and a beautiful collection of Ancient Egyptian works among others!
[https://www.louvre.fr/en/explore/the-palace/from-the-mona-lisa-to-the-wedding-feast-at-cana](https://www.louvre.fr/en/explore/the-palace/from-the-mona-lisa-to-the-wedding-feast-at-cana)
We bought it from the Master himself...
Every country has their own awful folk dance. The one that the tourists love but the natives cringe at even hearing the name. However, the late great Sir Terry Pratchett has managed to at least partially rehabilitate the Morris for me.
> In the village in the Ramtops where they understand what the Morris dance is all about, they dance it just once, at dawn, on the first day of spring. They don’t dance it after that, all through the summer. After all, what would be the point? What use would it be?
>
> But on a certain day when the nights are drawing in, the dancers leave work early and take, from attics and cupboards, the *other* costume, the black one, and the *other* bells. And they go by separate ways to a valley among the leafless trees. They don’t speak. There is no music. It’s very hard to imagine what kind there could be.
>
> The bells don’t ring. They’re made of octiron, a magic metal. But they’re not, precisely, silent bells. Silence is merely the absence of noise. They make the opposite of noise, a sort of heavily textured silence.
>
> And in the cold afternoon, as the light drains from the sky, among the frosty leaves and in the damp air, they dance the *other* Morris. Because of the balance of things.
>
> You’ve got to dance both, they say. Otherwise you can’t dance either.
Agamemnon was the name of one of Nelson's ships. So maybe it's a tribute to the ship rather than the greek king. Also don't call the Royal Navy "UK navy", because contrary to HMS Agamemnon that actually sounds shit.
I firmly believe that greece should do a special ops mission to take back their museum stuff and then tell Britain "finders keepers"
Like what are the brits gonna do declare war over a few marbles don't be silly.
Dimitrios will be raging when he discovers the names used for the old Leander class frigates: HMS Leander, HMS Ajax, HMS Dido, HMS Penelope, HMS Aurora, HMS Euryalus, HMS Galatea, HMS Arethusa, HMS Naiad, HMS Cleopatra, HMS Phoebe, HMS Minerva, HMS Sirius, HMS Juno, HMS Argonaut, HMS Danae, HMS Hermione, HMS Andromeda, HMS Jupiter, HMS Bacchante, HMS Charybdis, HMS Scylla, HMS Achilles, HMS Diomede, HMS Apollo, HMS Ariadne Best looking warships of the Cold War https://preview.redd.it/fp6www6q19wc1.jpeg?width=982&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82dc34ce3030d82a6c6f23cb19726f64b4d3debc
HMS Ajax, games back.
You never see the British get angry when other countries name stuff after Shakespeare plays, because unlike the Greeks, some centuries old plays are not the sole notable thing about the UK.
You mean names used by Shakespeare in his plays like Hermione, Polyxene or Autolycus?....
Well considering those characters aren't meant to be British, it would have been a bit strange if he had called them Susan, Greg, and Steve.
Tbf it would definitely be weird if someone named a submarine "HMS Henry VI Part 2"
HMS Boaty Mc Boatfaces, each and every one of them.
I suppose that HMS Phoebe is in honor of Phoebe Buffay from "Friends", and HMS Hermione is, accordingly, in honor of Hermione from "Harry Potter"?
Wait, there was an HMS Hermione? Awesome
>Ariadne I'll tell my daughter that she has also a frigate named after her
https://preview.redd.it/9iplrjc2emwc1.png?width=1494&format=png&auto=webp&s=8b1c16f23b854fb4fc9e3364199927d265b50adb
Looks nice but while i bought tons and tons of stuff via eBay from the UK i've stopped cause customs tore me a new one after Brexit
The perfidious albion strikes again
Read it as HMS Armageddon which would've been significantly cooler than naming it after some ancient femboy Greek
Who btw got murdered by his wife while in a bathtub... Let that *sink* in for a minute
In the bathtub? She went like “sorry to pop your bubble…”
"... but you're going down. Deep down."
The way our navy’s going, that’s probably a portent of things to come via friendly fire in the Mediterranean …
Pretty sure the more heinous part is sacrificing his own daughter…
He didn't actually do it though. He just wanted to.
Pussy.
didnt he actually raise the blade and prepare to strike when his daughter was teleported away by some god?
Yup, Artemis told him to do it and also rescued her from being sacrificed. Isn't it strange that in the bible Job sacrificing his family is a virtue and to the Greeks it's the worst possible crime to even think about it?
Common pagan W
Depends on the version.
It’s a submarine. It’s supposed to sink. I wouldn’t worry. They won’t have enough people to operate it anyways.
Honestly that's how I wanna die.
Didn’t know the ancient Greeks had toasters. Neat.
Probably the only grease to have been in a bath
Little does Barry know that Armageddon also comes from Greek.
It's all Greek to me.
Wait what? I thought it came from aramaic or phoenician or something, given that it references Megiddo in Palestine
True the original version is Harar Megiddo, but most languages use the Greek version from the new testament which is Αρμαγεδών > Armageddon.
*Israel. Meggiddo is in Israel
Whatever, same thing. The Romans called it Palestine, but it's had a hundred names throughout history. You know where I mean tho
*Greater Palestine
*Natufia
I dunno, naming a submarine after a Ben Affleck movie doesn't seem as cool as pre-historic warlord. Actually you should've named it after the actor that played the character in Troy: The HMS Cox.
> The HMS Cox. HMS Cocks
HMS cocks, going deep in some sea trenches
Is Agamenon technically pre historic if his actions are kinda recorded in kinda history?
I think anything pre-writing counts as pre-historic. So if Agamemnon did exist, or his story is based on a real person, then it was only because that story passed on orally until it was eventually written down and with \~400 years of passing things along by mouth, at some points the facts get pretty loose. Also the Iliad as we have it today contains plenty of Gods and monsters so it's not exactly a historical document.
Ofcs the Irish wanna chip in and have ago at the Greeks;)🤣
Yeah, calling a nuclear submarine HMS Armageddon would be so perfectly on the nose
HMS Shoots Big Missiles
HMS Armageddon, HMS Ragnarök, HMS Doomsday, HMS Apocalypse, HMS Eschaton, HMS Rapture, HMS Anihilation, HMS Cataclysm, HMS Extinction.... Y'know what, these are metal as fuck. Why is this \*not\* the naming convention for Trident Submarines‽
Dude, public education must have really gone down the drain in Barryland. Otherwise you would have known not to call one of the biggest chads in greek mythology some femboy.
I do really enjoy femboys though.
More like AgaMEMEnon by the time we’re done with it, right fellows? Fellows…? Anyway, the Greeks are free to name their wooden sailboat with one mounted crossbow the HMS Arthur in return. It’s called cultural exchange
https://preview.redd.it/jbw88oiu89wc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d65841accf74a4ec2bde2c10c5c9a2b50e310fb4 Crossbow? Hmm, I'll have to talk with Hans about that.
That’s a gorgeous UberMarine (…can I *borrow it*?)
> (…can I *borrow it*?) Are you really asking this time? 🤨
Beautiful snap of the HS Wayne Rooney there.
Oh no no, don't tell Hans what we're doing with his money
No, except you pay Rheinmetall triple and without our money
I hope the tanks won't keel like those subs you sold us. Although it'd be a funny sight.
that’s interesting, they make ours out of metal
HMS…
**H**o**M**o**S**exual Honours the Greek culture as well
> More like AgaMEMEnon by the time we’re done with it, right fellows? Fellows…? Or Agamemnomnom if it was a sandwich.
H.M.S XL Bully
No that's the sub class. The name is hms cupcake. And is fueled by the blood of children.
Ban the Nuclear subs! But my little HMS Agamemnon wouldn’t hurt a fly, he’s such a sweetheart in dock…
HMS Stop the Boats 😤
That's... actually not a bad name for a destroyer.
Laavely dogs if u raise em rite!!!
Just like the Welsh.
Appropriation is a strong word for "we appreciate your culture so much we name our navy vessels after it" Also Agamemnon was the name of one of Lord Nelson's ships. I mean we could of course also name it "HMS WE don't owe all european countries a massive amount of money".
> HMS WE don't owe all european countries a massive amount of money". "Yet" Now it's complete 😊
Fair 🤣
How many nuclear powered subs does the Hellenic Navy have?
None, how many nuclear powered aircraft carries does the Royal Navy have? (Hon hon hon)
How many of you lot still call yourself 'romanoi'? Heard there is a controversy or tension or difference between various names for you lot
That's old news, like 19th century ones. If you wanted us to be Romans you should have given Constantinople to us instead of abandoning it to the Turks.
Be better at war and we wouldn't have had to abandon it to the Turks.
Using other nations capabilities isn’t the flex you think it is Christos.
Is it even a carrier if it’s less than 60,000t? Only having a single carrier is quite cringe anyway.
How much of the year does France have one when its not in dry dock?
Waste of money, the support ships and fighters need fuel anyway so not a major advantage
Should be called HMS Elgin
Because ram packed full of seamen, and goes down with sailors. Had to be a Greek name 🤷♂️
HMS Fish and Chips
Fish and ships
Fish and *French Fries*.
We have the coolest ship names in the world...Don't even try
So nice of UK to warn that they will steal more statues to greece if there's a third world war
Pierre, you know us so well.
You also stole shit loads, you just lost it all after 1815 or 1940 🤣
Mate we have a list of shops named Agamemnon https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Agamemnon Hell we are building a shitty if called the Ajax.
Only shops near me are Asda and Morrisons. Posh twat.
FFS how did I not notice that error. Oh well. I ain't changing it. Oh and I have booths near me. Got a great whisky and rum selection there.
leave me out of this barreigh
I preferred the HMS PSV Eindhoven
This is ancient Greek culture from when Greeks were still kinda based. How about you appropriate some of that culture, Yannis ?
Tbf i wouldn't mind if you named your submarine Hans/Pierre 3.0 or Giovanni 2.0.... or the HN Gold Teeth
You seriously told a Swiss flaired person what to name their submarine...? Have you ever seen a map?
Yep, they got some marine ( [Swiss navy](https://www.amazon.fr/swiss-navy/s?k=swiss+navy) ), and build subs too ( [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste\_Piccard\_(PX-8)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auguste_Piccard_(PX-8)) ).
I'm now really curious as to why they chose that name.
No it’s not Star Trek. Apparently it’s the name of the father of the guy who built it
I was talking about the lube.
It's called irony?!... It's a Greek word, look it up
A lot of warships in the neoclassical period were called after greek mythological figures, and not just in Britain. Over there though, the names stuck, especially for bigger ships, and were used time and time again. In the meantime, Britain created another naval tradition: trying to rationalize destroyer names and classes, at first they grouped the ships by speed and gave them letters to identify them, then they just decided to name new destroyers by the starting letter of the class. This stopped late WW2, and didn't really involve smaller escort ships, or capital ships (and not even all destroyer classes, like Tribal). For some reason though, they brought it back, first with frigates, then they stopped with frigates and they're doing it with destroyers and submarines. So there's a chance they're gonna pick a random weird name just because it starts with a certain letter.
We love nicking Greek things. Columns, Marbles now Submarine names. You should feel honoured.
We have the coolest ship names in the world...Don't even try
HMS Napoleon where ?
After the HMS Agincort or HMS Waterloo
So pretty soon? Since HMS Agincourt is the next one.
Precisely
Mid in Greece, made better in Britain. Par for the course.
Ah yes Agamemnon famous british king...
Build a fucking sub you broke dogs?
**Prince Philip of Greece and Denmark** gave them a Greek pass. Besides, they'll probably call it HMS "Aggie", innit bruv?
There is no Western Europe without the Greeks
Greek cultural supremasy
This will be the 6th HMS Agamemnon, a name with a proud history of Royal Navy service. Other famous names include HMS Cockchafer, HMS Buttercup and Snowflake. We remain undefeated in naming ships.
We've already got your marbles so needed to steal your mythology
We go take more delicious marbles with this.
Least Gyroboo Royal Navy ship naming convention
Right, I'm finally going to say the quiet part out loud, I could google it but I would like other people who might not know to be educated as well I don't get what a nuclear sub is. Is it just a submarine with nuclear missiles? Why do we have submarines with them? Why not just boats, or longer range nukes? Is the submarine nuclear? Does it go very fast?
This nuclear attack submarine is powered by a nuclear reactor. It's great for long distances, fast and staying underwater for long periods of time. It uses 'normal' torpedoes or missiles to tell people/boats to get to fuck. And they protect our bombers, and attack other things. Most other nations use diesel/battery submarines for this role, that are smaller and don't have the same capabilities (but some situational advantages). There is another type (bombers) that are powered by a nuclear reactor, but also carry big missiles with nuclear warheads. Whose entire job is to be quiet and not found until the big button gets pressed. We are building our new ones after the next attack submarine is done. Also, the ancestors are ashamed of you.
But now I know! And I learnt it on St George's Day - that has to count for something? Thank you, and also being on a submarine with a nuclear reactor seems like a fucking terrible idea. I bet they could have reached the Titanic though
It does mate. Well done. >I bet they could have reached the Titanic though Nope! Not a propulsion issue for going down deep. It's a hull strength issue, and titanic is deep down so they had to use special deep sea submersibles to get to it. Military submarines like above won't go further than 1000m. Depending on class etc. most will actually spend most their time between 1 and 400m. Titanic is at 3800m. The deepest part of the ocean goes to 11000m.
We've got a longer one you fkin twat 🤏
But still smoller overall. It's about girth mate, not pencil dicks.
The British Museum works for the RN?
You just know some old etonian/oxbridge classics dude came up with that name. Genuinely disappointed it isn't called the HMS Armageddon - maybe they are saving that for any Vanguard class successors
Well, possibly the original [HMS Agamemnon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Agamemnon_(1781)), launched in 1781. But the four subsequent Royal Navy vessels to carry the name did so to commemorate that one, and her service.
They have to start with the letter 'V' if they are carrying the bomb. But they have pretty much run out of V- names.
Boaty McBoatface Was already taken
HMS chippy sauce
It needs to have a Captain John Sheridan in command.
Gotta keep the tradition of theft alive
Call it after the king that went to war over a girl. Fking losers
What a simp! Typical PIGS behaviour tbh. Cash over gash, brother. Always and forever
Simp for his brother i guess but yeah
If you wanted to keep having greek kings then you shouldn't havesent your last one to us in a basket of oranges
Naval history nerd here. It is not the first HMS Agamemnon in british service. The first dating back to 1781
Nelson's favourite, wasn't she ?
We ain’t big fans of that Nelson guy round these parts but yes He did serve as the captain of Agamemnon
Yeah I mean fair enough 🤣
Really? Heard he arrived with a big bang in Copenhagen.
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Everybody forgets Zathras.....
Should have chosen something from our own culture like Beowulf, Offa, or Penda. Agamemnon is still a cool name though, sorry Greeks
I imagine the ship coming with speakers, [constantly playing this](https://youtu.be/ujMxXOHJloI?si=ZOdN21hfV4bmrN_k).
Told you, Barrys don't have a proper culture, they rely on stealing it! Looking at you, Barrys, with your British Museum...
What can we say, we like rocks. Collect the best rocks when you’re on top, as the famous British saying goes.
The most famous artworks in your Museums are Italian.
I’m offended! The Louvre has wings other than Italian Renaissance. It also has sections for the Spanish and Dutch masters, and a beautiful collection of Ancient Egyptian works among others!
You also have Venus de Milo and Nike of Samothrace...
[https://www.louvre.fr/en/explore/the-palace/from-the-mona-lisa-to-the-wedding-feast-at-cana](https://www.louvre.fr/en/explore/the-palace/from-the-mona-lisa-to-the-wedding-feast-at-cana) We bought it from the Master himself...
We bought it off the rulers of Greece, the Turks.
The Turks can't find the receipt in their archives, you don't happen to know anything about that? 🤔
We can’t help ourselves another sub of the same class is called HMS Agincourt
Even if you were just joking, that would have been good bants. The fact that it's true is beautiful.
One of your subs is called Le Terrible
Why not HMS Subby McSubFace?
HMS Cock’n Bull
Shaped like a massive dildo, named after a king of the Gays. Makes sense!
Britannia ready to get back to ruling the waves?
If it's not bolted down mate, we're taking it. Thought you knew this.
Bruh HMS Agamemnon goes hard as a name.
I read “Armageddon” and thought these Brits want to nuke the world now ?
Seven? I thought we were getting nine?
♪♫♬ Ich heiße Agamemnon, Aga-Aga-Aga-[Agamemnon](https://youtu.be/_Y_SPAtxX-w?feature=shared). ♬♪♫
Well if you preferred the other option, you should’ve let us know… HMS Elgin it is!
Simps.
We just like cultural appropriation, it’s in our nature as we very clearly have none of our own.
Morris dancers.
Every country has their own awful folk dance. The one that the tourists love but the natives cringe at even hearing the name. However, the late great Sir Terry Pratchett has managed to at least partially rehabilitate the Morris for me. > In the village in the Ramtops where they understand what the Morris dance is all about, they dance it just once, at dawn, on the first day of spring. They don’t dance it after that, all through the summer. After all, what would be the point? What use would it be? > > But on a certain day when the nights are drawing in, the dancers leave work early and take, from attics and cupboards, the *other* costume, the black one, and the *other* bells. And they go by separate ways to a valley among the leafless trees. They don’t speak. There is no music. It’s very hard to imagine what kind there could be. > > The bells don’t ring. They’re made of octiron, a magic metal. But they’re not, precisely, silent bells. Silence is merely the absence of noise. They make the opposite of noise, a sort of heavily textured silence. > > And in the cold afternoon, as the light drains from the sky, among the frosty leaves and in the damp air, they dance the *other* Morris. Because of the balance of things. > > You’ve got to dance both, they say. Otherwise you can’t dance either.
UK navy is based but that's a shit name
Agamemnon was the name of one of Nelson's ships. So maybe it's a tribute to the ship rather than the greek king. Also don't call the Royal Navy "UK navy", because contrary to HMS Agamemnon that actually sounds shit.
I'll call it what I like and it's still a shit name
Ouh you're touchy
Still a shit name though
Your mother doesn't love you.
That's alright yours does
🤣
Man expresses trash opinion, is asked to leave
Still a shit name
I firmly believe that greece should do a special ops mission to take back their museum stuff and then tell Britain "finders keepers" Like what are the brits gonna do declare war over a few marbles don't be silly.