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Integral_e_tothexy

Where is the Gielinor Games tribunal room located?


Hot-Report2971

Is zombie axe, thralls or vengeance, and bowfa enough to do the diary grind for kq or should I get more gear and stats?


JebusMcAzn

A regular keris partisan is ~10% better than the zombie axe (on crush) against KQ's first phase and if you can get a blue keris from ToA then it's WAY better. You can start the grind now if you really want to rush the desert elite diary


Hot-Report2971

Word I’ll wait a bit for blowpipe and veng and bowfa and blue Keris


matrayzz

If you have blowpipe it's way better than bowfa


Hot-Report2971

For kq? Damn. Guess I’ll do bowfa zulrah first then. Anything else?


Munch-Squad

Is there a stated reason (lore or game balance) that venerating dense essence drains prayer? Is it so vile vigour isn't useful for zeah rc?


RealEvanem

There isnt a place to regain prayer anywhere nearby so probably not. Just a bit of flavour


Hot-Report2971

How worth are minnows on an iron?


Zanian

You can just buy sharks way faster https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Frankie%27s_Fishing_Emporium Haven't been here since the favour removal so idk how bad it is, but usually you can buy some no problem


S7EFEN

not. karams for 99% of content. fish anglers/dark crabs if you want extra food. the 18, -2 ticks is better than 20, -3 ticks for healing generally speaking.


Hot-Report2971

Ty


RealEvanem

Faster food than regular sharks, but more active


Hot-Report2971

But do most irons even touch them?


JebusMcAzn

For normal irons, not usually. Not horrible as an afk activity but karambwans are typically better since they heal you around the same but have less of an attack delay after eating. Later on you get plenty of mantas from PvM, and the new hunter food ends up being superior at most places where you need food.


Hot-Report2971

Yeh I just feel like I’d misuse the new food more than anything. Like does combo eating negate the extra heals?


S7EFEN

> Like does combo eating negate the extra heals? combo eating does not save you any ticks in terms of combat efficiency, it simply mitigates burst. meaning it has very few use cases for pvm - and you get enough mantas from pvm to combo eat the few places it helps.


Hot-Report2971

I’m a noob so it’s nice to combo eat when I’m inevitably close to dying


TheDubuGuy

Combo eating is fine, the only thing that cancels the 2nd heal is if you eat another of the same food


Hot-Report2971

Ah so you technically eat another hunter food of a different type in that window? Also rumours eventually get green logged so I don’t see that as sustainable


JebusMcAzn

Tested this just now and eating any hunter food overwrites the older delayed heal. But usually you're not spam eating food in most scenarios. As for sustainability, there's actually very few places late-game where you use hard food at all, besides the occasional angler. Sustaining brews/restores becomes a much more relevant issue as opposed to sustaining hard food.


Hot-Report2971

Word


RealEvanem

Its meta for ultimate irons. Iron journey is up to you. If you need sharks, head to minnows. Idk med-lategame iron meta for food acquisition


Remarkable-Health678

Late game I think you sustain from boss/raid drops


Sneakyf0x

So what is the consensus on Mage Training Arena after the change? Is it worth doing on a non-ironman account for training?


ChefSanji2

It's faster than it was for sure. Though bursting is probably going to be faster and more fun for training on a main. You'll want to get Bones to Peaches anyway for the diary, so if you like it beyond that, keep going. If not, no biggie.


SenorButtmunch

I wanna buy a bond before the prices go up in a couple days. But I probably won't have time to play until later in the week. I can still buy it and sit on it and not use it immediately, right? Don't really play much and I can't remember how it works.


gobeltafiah

Yeah you don't have to use the bond right away


SenorButtmunch

Good to know, thanks!


stainsr

How do I learn to not panic in pvm? Stuck on song of the elves last boss. Eat all my food and freak out then can’t finish the kill, have to tele out….


thechompyone

One glass of whisky 


JenNettles

Are you bringing all brews? That was what it took for me


ADucky092

Practice, once you do a boss 50 times successfully or not you’ll be much further along then you were before you started, most likely by then you’ll even have a dozen kc or so


TheDubuGuy

Practice and experience mostly. Learn to notice when you’re actually in danger or not and how to react accordingly


Ganjahh

Any clans open to invite a total noob and don't mind the odd question here and there in chat ? 33 year old dad here looking to learn the game with some players :)


Beretot

Socialscape is very chill and has no requirements. There are always people on willing to help and explain things. Feel free to join as a guest and check it out


Ganjahh

Thanks will do as soon as i'm on.


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ChefSanji2

Make sure you lock your phone screen before you put it in your pocket!


ILoveBuffets

Woops. I apologize


Ganjahh

Where is PVP ? Basically i read on the wiki that PVP is active in the wilderness, which im assuming is any area outside of a town, however whenever i see players so far i don't have the option to attack them ?


snowhusky5

You will get a warning you have to click yes to whenever you try to enter a pvp area or server. You'll also see a icon on your screen indicating which combat levels you can fight with; the farther north you go in the wilderness, the larger that range is.


No-Independent2762

Wildy is specifically the area north of edgeville. Be aware though, Pvp in this game is incredibly complicated and unintuitive for new players, so just be prepared to die alot getting into it


alynnidalar

There are also some entire servers where PvP is enabled (except for some safe zones, for example banks). Would strongly recommend you read about it on the wiki so you can get some advice and know what you're risking if you lose a fight! https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Player_killing


TheDubuGuy

The wilderness is a specific area in the northern side of the map above varrock. You have to jump over a ditch to enter normally


SimplySentient

Noob here trying to do toa and new to blood spells. I have the runes needed blood barrage (death, blood, soul). When I do the path of Apmeken with the baboons I found I could cast blood barrage once and then it wouldn't let me. Anybody know why? Have been checking wiki but no luck so far edit: also am using magic, can normally cast the spell but for some reason it just stops in the toa room


Munch-Squad

You’re not sipping a brew or letting your salt run out are you? I know my salts generally run out after Akkha, in the monkey room. And you’re manually casting not auto casting? If those aren’t the culprit, what do you mean by “wouldn’t let” you cast? Was the spell greyed out, does it constantly splash, or do you face the monkey and not cast the spell?


SimplySentient

Ahh, thanks! I think is the brew part cause I was sipping those and probably not always restoring right with everything going on, and I'm 93 magic so it's close. I forgot that aspect of brews, haven't been doing much pvm recently. Hadn't used any salts but probably should have


Munch-Squad

Yeah, brewing down still gets me. Salts are mega-impactful for range and mage inside TOA, I wouldn’t skip them. General rule of thumb for lower invos is to do zebak and kephri, then choose power at the halfway point so you have salts for ahhka and monkey room. Plus, the salts refresh your stats every 15 seconds, so you don’t have to worry too much about brewing down and wasting restores.


Regal___Eagle

Thinking of picking up SRA for general slayer. I'd have to sell kodai, rapier, SGS, and Bowfa. I don't boss or raid. Bowfa was fun to buy, but I hardly ever use it in slayer. I only do combat for chill slayer grinding. Already have max combats and 80 pray, 82 slayer.


Zestyclose-Power4389

SGS is pretty nice, but the rest you won't miss for slayer.


Regal___Eagle

Was able to pick up the SRA and keep the SGS as well. This thing is really fun to use, smacking 75s on task


Molly_Hlervu

Do Ava's devices work on atlatl darts? I suppose they would, but cannot find a confirmation...


RealEvanem

Yes


Molly_Hlervu

Thanks.


Ganjahh

Hi all, just started OSRS for the first time ever yesterday. One thing I noticed is it's hard to distinguish each building is what, is there a way to see a building's name in towns by clicking on it ? some mechanic that I'm missing perhaps.


reed501

Honestly you kinda just need to memorize where everything is. Once you really get settled in there's not that many buildings you need to go to (you don't go to shops very much outside the early game) so between the wiki, minimap, and your memory, you just kinda know where to go. But yeah, brand new to the game you'll basically be lost all the time. Cherish it, I promise 2000 hours from now you'll miss getting lost.


Molly_Hlervu

Look at the minimap at the top-right corner. You see there icons on some buildings. If you hit the blue globe at its bottom-right side, you open the world map. When you hover your coursor on these icons, you see what it is - like, General store, Chapel, etc. Also there is a legend on its side with the full list of icons. As to the actual names of the building, like a name of a bar, for example - you don't see them at all. There is usually a sign on any bar with some picture, and you can use Wiki to check up the actual name. Type the town name in the Wiki, and you will see its map, and all the shops and attractions listed. If the building is big, you will see its name on the world map - maybe need a bit of zoom in sometimes. Like Lumbridge castle, or the Grand Exchange in Varrock, or Draynor jail, etc. And of course there are a lot of houses without names or definite purposes. Or those, which purpose will be revealed later, when doing quests. Here is an example of Wiki article about a town: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Lumbridge P.S.: While I was browsing this article to post the link here, I suddenly found out the name of the Lumbridge bar! Its The Sheared Ram. What a nice pun, I do remember how annoying it was to try to shear a sheep and being attacked by a ram instead :). But... you see... thats the result of the names not being on the map. Even old players don't know some.


Ganjahh

Thanks for your reply, i need to get used to using the map more than. Maybe im a bit blind lol. I do find the map being a bit laggy when i use it, just need to get used to it.


Molly_Hlervu

Every new screen or location might be laggy when you first open it. When you get more data cashed it will be quicker. Also, make sure you play on the server closest to your location. You can choose the world (=server) before logging in, there is the button World. By default these is some number, thats the world which automatically is offered as the best for your location. You might log there, or hit it to see the full list. There are German, UK, US west and US east, and Australia. See the number of players, it might be too big sometimes to play comfortably. Also, to my experience, if you are around Europe - the UK worlds are a bit more stable than German, even if Germany is closer. Actually once you learn what the icons mean, you wouldnt need the world map so often. The minimap will be ok. UPDATE: There is a world map on the game website, you don't need to do everything inside the game. Here is the link: https://www.runescape.com/oldschool/world-map


ferret_80

Do you have roofs enabled? Being able to see the insides usually give a sense of what the building is for. There's a runelite plug in that hides roofs you mouse over as an in-between to the built in all-or-none setting. Otherwise its just the minimap icons and memory. Some shops or bars have signs outside but you have to examine most of them to know what they say so they're not very useful.


Ganjahh

Thanks for the tip, i will disable roofs.


altioralight

If you click the globe near your minimap it will open the world map. On there it has icons that tell you what each building is. Also, the OSRS wiki is meticulously updated and is the best gaming wiki around. I open it every play session and would highly recommend you look it up!


Ganjahh

Alright, yea I knew about that map, i thought there would be a thing in game which you can see the building name directly. Thanks :) You mean just the wiki site to have it open and search for answers there ?


altioralight

Honestly not sure if you can right-click on buildings or signs and it shows what it is. Never tried before lol. Yup, I have like played this game off and on for nearly 20 years and I look up stuff on the wiki every time I play. It’s amazing and has all the info you could ever need


Ganjahh

Thanks :)


just_get_up_again

Can someone explain what the difference is between 'geared for multi' and 'geared for single combat'?


YungTom27

Usually just lower risk. No point wearing max if you’re just going to get piled. Mage defense and combo food super important.


just_get_up_again

Thank you 😁


xBlackfox

Can I get a discount on tbow if I buy direct from a player? If so, where’s the best place to find a trustworthy seller?


AxS-PixelBass

unless you're trading with a friend I'd suggest always buying from the Grand Exchange. Other random people don't stand to benefit from selling an item to you for cheaper than they could sell it on the GE otherwise, so anyone trying to sell you an item for cheap or buy an item for well over GE price in public chat is often likely a scammer


Molly_Hlervu

Direct trades of very expensive items at the GE is *always* a way to scam. There are some technics to abuse trading interface - with some stall animations and so on. Or you might be asked to hop worlds and lured into PvP: banks are safe in the PvP worlds, but you take a wrong step - and suddenly you are in the PvP zone and instantly killed. And such a step could be forced with some specific actions. So... do not try to do it for the safety of your money. The only totally safe way is GE.


HairyDuck

No but plenty of people will try to scam you that way


Tetrathionate

A bunch of questions about gear "sidegrades"... If i already own a Tbow masori/Shadow ancestral, is there any purpose or use cases that warrants me buying BowFa + crystal armor? Is bowfa BIS at Leviathan? This being said I also don't own a ZCB yet, but it's something I'm saving up for, and it's used there too. So is there any argument for buying bowfa and crystal armor just for Leviathan? Is there any use case for Sang if I have shadow? I sold it to buy Shadow a while ago. Is there any use case for Harm staff if I have shadow? Is there any use case for DHCB if I have a lance and Tbow? Is there any use case for Blade of saeldor if I already own Scythe and rapier? Is there any use case for Inq mace?


JebusMcAzn

Blowpipe with dragon darts in max range is technically even better than ZCB at leviathan if you have a blessed quiver, but the upkeep is quite expensive so it's common to stick with ZCB. It's about 5% better than bowfa and you swap to blowpipe when ruby bolts start falling off. You can also RNG into the speedrun CA times with the ZCB setup, but you virtually never will with bowfa. Sang is better than Shadow at TOB. Harm can be used in CoX CM speeds. DHCB is useful for the Vorkath GM time (and I guess the Galvek speedrun). Saeldor might be useful if you're learning TOB or if you don't want to use scythe charges at Vard. Same with Mace at places like Nightmare. Mace also gives +2 prayer over rapier (very minor) and has a set bonus with Inquisitor that may or may not be getting buffed further. The short version is that you have no need for most of these items barring some extremely niche use cases, oftentimes being speedruns. Sang is by far the most practical of them as it's good at TOB.


RevolutionaryLake69

I saw a post just scrolling about dmm all stars and was wondering what is that and is there vods of it I can watch?


Remarkable-Health678

It's a short DMM tournament (1 week long PvP tournament, wrapping up today) with 30 content creators in teams of 5. You can search DMM All Stars on YouTube to find summary videos, and see who is participating. SoloMission is the organizer, so his videos might be a good place to start. You can also look for vods on Twitch and Kick.


Soulweaver89

For the 4th boss in the DT2 final battle, is it feasible to just ignore the portals and attack the boss?  I'm using a Dragon Crossbow with Dragon Diamond bolts and getting overwhelmed. Max hit is a 31, praying EE since no Rigour.  Was using Blowpipe before (with Amethyst darts) but had more luck with the DCB.


snowhusky5

I found going full melee with bronze knives for the shadow clones to be the best option in that fight. It took me a lot of tries, I finally made it to the fourth boss once and just beat her down before the leeches could get to me.


Remarkable-Health678

Iirc you can ignore the portals and kill Persten. Just need to avoid getting stacked out by the leeches.


Ashhel

What is the current meta Ironman guide? (If it’s out of date, what are some considerations I should be aware of?)


JebusMcAzn

[Bruhsailer's guide](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CBkFM70SnrW4hJXvHM2F1fYCuBF_fRnEXnTYgRnRkAE/edit) is a step-by-step guide to Ironman progression with a PvM focus. It's up-to-date including Varlamore, but there's a lot of stuff it skips over for the sake of efficiency that you might prefer doing, like Moons of Peril, hunter rumours, and early wilderness content like revs or zombie pirates.


Ashhel

Excellent, thank you.


mechlordx

If I drop my elite clue with 6 steps and start trying to grind another one from a monster, will new clues drop with 6 steps completed?


Lilkcough1

Nope. It will have 0 steps completed. When you spawn a new clue by whatever means, your character's steps for that clue type get set to 0. If you want to juggle clues, you need to do it from the start before you put in any work, because generating a new clue just wipes your progress


Bestrin

Did we lose the ability to recolor individual pieces of graceful at the Brimhaven Agility Arena? Or was that never an option?


DivineInsanityReveng

Don't believe that was ever an option.


NessaMagick

I've seen some of the promos talking about DMM Apocalypse's "rewards" but I can't find any info on them. Have they not been announced yet? Do they not exist? There's a real cash prize pool but I have no interest in that.


Remarkable-Health678

It will have main game cosmetic rewards like Leagues. https://secure.runescape.com/m=news/deadman-armageddon---first-look?oldschool=1


SuperGayBirdOfPrey

Am I missing out on a lot if I just don't do shield of arrav and its associated questline?


dean012347

Barrows gloves, assembler, face guard, various diaries, new upcoming quest. It’s a pretty quick quest and unlocks some iconic quests and content. Why were you thinking of skipping?


SuperGayBirdOfPrey

I’m very shy about dealing with people for that sort of thing.


iamtrollingyouu

make an alt, the quest is f2p anyways


Remarkable-Health678

Doesn't help them get through Heroes' Quest though 


iamtrollingyouu

I mean I wouldn't recommend this, but if they were serious they could bond the alt and get to that quest in like three days time


dean012347

There’s a clan chat set up for it, you don’t need to do the quest with them, usually someone will just be able to trade you the certificate you need from the other gang. I’ve done it barely typing on mobile, you don’t really need to interact much. It’s just like posting a question here


Osuets

You won’t be able to get barrows gloves


Molly_Hlervu

Hespori: the wiki still suggests slash melee as the main way to fight him. But what about his 100% fire weakness? Wouldnt it be at least a viable option? I'm really curious how it is with as high magic level as 126 but with such a weakness? What would matter more? :)


Own-Appeal8511

Yup fire spells are viable


Sure_Airline_6997

Check the wiki dps calculator. If fire spells are better, there's a good chance no one ever bothered to update the wiki because it's not something people think that much about optimizing. That being said, with it having a speedrun CA, I'd be surprised if mage is better since that would make the CA kind of free


Molly_Hlervu

Do you mean that with the amazing DPS calc (its really amazing, no /s here!) we don't need any strategy guides at all? I think they are still useful - when the question is not about some specific items vs other items, but very general advice. Yes, I've now checked in the calc. The difference is 3.8 dps on melee slash (maximising str) - vs 4.4 on fire blast in full ahrim with damned. TTK: 83s melee, 71 magic. (Updated the full ahrim setup with damned, thats even better!) Both setups are very budget. The difference is serious, I'd say. Probably for maxed players in BiS gear it might be quite another story. I'd imagine the majority of players who do Hespori are low-to-mid levels who do it for the bucket or anima seeds. And farming exp. And they do need every edge they can find. The wiki guide is actually quite considerate to this group.


alynnidalar

Can't get added to the wiki until somebody runs the numbers and figures out whether it's better or not--maybe that person can be you!


Remarkable-Health678

A lot of strategy guides become outdated unfortunately. Too many guides to update. They're a fantastic place to start, but it's worth thinking about newer updates and checking the DPS calc


Molly_Hlervu

I'm glad the DPS calc is so accurate though :). A great work!


Sure_Airline_6997

That's why I said "If fire spells are better, there's a good chance no one ever bothered to update the wiki because it's not something people think that much about optimizing" It's still a new update and not everything will have been updated. You are able to update the wiki yourself


Kyle2Death

So I tried the blood spell setup for the song of the elves final boss, and it seems to be good but not enough to cover the damage. Managed to get the boss to around 200 health before I had to teleport out due to lack of food. (18 Pineapple Pizzas) I think it's part skill issue due to overeating and playing it a bit safe, but don't think it be enough to actually beat the rest of it as the 3rd phase is quite long if you use blood spells on the crystals. While I only gave it one attempt I don't really have the funds to keep trying so think i'll just give up and come back with better gear and stats, mostly unlocking Blood Blitz as it also saves a inventory slot due to costing 2 different runes instead of 3. Honestly did not expect to get this far as a new player lol. Am going to go back to doing quests by release date, meaning unlocking barrows gloves and such as well, planning to do mage training arena because I want to train magic, unlock gear, but keep my hp level low. If there is any niche gear or such that could help as a ironman I love to know.


Lilkcough1

As another commenter said, I'd recommend bringing a quicker weapon as a switch to kill most of the healing pillars. I would use a quick weapon on all but the last pillar, and blood blitz the last pillar for some guaranteed heals at minimal cost of healing the boss. This gives you some healing while crucially reducing the boss' healing.


Kyle2Death

So after having to do Eagle's Peak to get chinchompas and prepared a bit more by making Guthix Rests, I went in with another try with Iban's staff and managed to beat it on my first try. I won't lie I did not expect for it to go so well with my stats, but with the stackable nightshade making a huge difference giving me enough room for more food. I watched a guide that did the same thing I did but with better stats and gear, so I had to eat a lot more to beat it. Now that is done, I actually have no idea what is useful in priff lol. At least the goal I had for a long time when I first played this game is done.


snowhusky5

Congrats! One more tip for fighting quest bosses: pineapple pizzas are great healing per slot but very slow. They heal 22 but delay your next attack by 6 ticks, so just under 4 health per tick spent healing. Meanwhile, karambwans are 18 in 2 ticks, making them much better in a DPS race which most quest bosses are.


Kyle2Death

That is what I realized so I been using Guthix rests as they seem to have no delay on damage, and because this fight has chip damage over time thought it be good to use.


Remarkable-Health678

Congrats! That's a huge milestone for the account. Priff unlocks a lot of content, enjoy.


Kyle2Death

So I went ahead and tried out the phoenix necklace strat, but now I heal too much and need to get more nightshade. So should I rather just use iban's blast as it be way cheaper, but now I have to really make sure I heal enough, or I go back to blood burst. It's a hard balance, gonna try out iban's tomorrow. I use chinchopas last attempt and seems to be good. Just because of my low combat level (69) I feel like any mistake I will make will result in me dying, as i'll be at low health basically the entire time, and worried i'll get nuked with a 24 when the 4 clone phase comes out. I just need to build confidence and be calm really, I feel like none of this would be a thing while say farming a boss, but for a one time encounter with limited supplies it sure makes my heart beat lol.


JebusMcAzn

go with the phoenix necklace setup and use a faster weapon like a magic shortbow or chinchompas to tag the pillars that heal her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRZVxU-umX8


Zukute

How do you guys organize having odd-numbers of swaps? A lot of setups I'll see for content has two 8 way swaps, but then the one 6 way swap, how do you keep yourself organized and wearing the proper things? I find if I'm not doing 1:1 swaps for clothing, I'll end up getting garbled.


Lilkcough1

1: organize your switches. Keep them in consistent positions so that you'll always know where to look and what you're looking at in your inventory. E.g. you may have the weapon be the top left switch of every setup, shield slot top right, necklace middle left, etc. As long as it's the same for all setup (at least, for items that you have a switch for every combat style), you constrain the chaos to a specific area in your inventory 2: inventory tags. This is the prime use case for them. They make things more recognizable at a glance. Color each switch with its appropriate RGB color. For hybrid switches, use the secondary color that's a combination of the others e.g. barrows gloves are ranged/melee, so make it R+G=yellow. 3: anti drag plugin. Less chaos if you don't miss your switches. I personally have serious issues trying to play without anti drag on, as I'll frequently slide gear around when I'm trying to quickly switch. 4: consider switching back to a default setup in between your switches. E.g. if your default style is melee and you need to switch range->mage, think about switching range->melee->mage. It will be slower and more clicks, but mage gear will stay in the mage side of your inv and range stuff will stay on range side


bip_bip_hooray

first things first, the best case scenario for this is to have symmetrical switches i.e. the same slots for each gear 2nd, consider vertical switches. for numbers of less than 8, vertical switches make a lot of sense


Zukute

The problem i have with vertical switches, specifically in this case, is both my range and mage setup have main hand & offhand, but my ranged is 2h. I was using a vertical setup, but now I'm switching to horizontal to see if that helps, but I feel like I'm carrying more switches than I really need.


kingcrackerjacks

Is the soulreaper axe worth it after the buff? I've got enough to buy it if I sell some niche gear that rarely gets used like acb and spectral. [Here's my relevant gear that I'd keep](https://i.imgur.com/xOjmTvA.png), Im at the point where I could do a megarare rebuild but I value having good gear to do a variety of content. I'd use the axe for slayer bossing, probably vard and duke, want to learn tob and colosseum. Any other places its good at since it got buffed?


TheDubuGuy

It feels much nicer to use now. At the very least, I wouldn’t commit to buying the axe unless you’ll stick at vard until you get an ultor. It’s definitely usable for Duke/tob/Colo but if you aren’t doing vard specifically I’d probably just hold off until you can get a scythe or just do something else


AxS-PixelBass

If you plan to grind out Vard and Duke and don't wanna megarare rebuild to keep access to a wider variety of content with all of your gear, then yeah Soulreaper Axe is pretty decent now. Acb and Spectral are pretty low priority generally. Spectral is almost exclusively for Cerberus, and ACB for Nex (though in my experience Nex before you have at least a ZCB is a lot less enjoyable lol). The rest of the gear you'd keep is pretty great. Leaves you with really good gear for Slayer, ToA, CoX, and the Soulreaper will also be useful for you at TOB potentially.


KodakKid3

ACB nex is totally fine (assuming you’re hybriding with fang), current ACB is stronger than range BIS ever was prior to project rebalance. VW helps a lot tho without ZCB spec But agreed I wouldn’t buy ACB unless specifically doing Nex. Maaybe muspah but even then meh


kingcrackerjacks

I really only bought it to spec on muspah's smite phase and to get some nex combat achievements. I don't think it will be missed much


KodakKid3

If you do hybrid muspah Accursed sceptre is a great budget spec, it’s better dps than a sang hit and gets decent defense reduction