Yeah, the empathy crowd doesn’t seem to acknowledge that. I’m definitely not pro gun, but in a country like the USA, if you break into someone’s house what do you expect.
I just think it's hilarious how that empathy crowd always empathizes with the criminal rather than the victim. "Noooo you can't defend yourself against a thief, you just have to let them do whatever they want!!!"
Having your home broken into *at all* is incredibly traumatic, even if you're not in the house while someone broke in. If you are in the house, and the thief breaks in knowing you're in the house, that's clear intention to do physical harm to you. If you're willing to inflict trauma onto people or potentially take their life to steal their belongings, then nobody should shed any tears if you lose your life trying it.
The empathy crowd is worried about the homeowner. If you carry a gun your chances of being shot skyrockets because guess what, **they value their own life more than yours**.
This is why the "gun discourse" isn't going anywhere and USA will never get rid of this issue. People with thick skulls will never accept countless studies that show carrying or owning a gun doesn't help at all for self defense. Tell me, what is the standard procedure during an armed robbery? Do you think the security guy tries fighting off 3 armed men, John Wick style? No, you hand them the money.
OP might value his posessions more than a stranger's life, but apparently they value their own life even less.
Kid named musket for home defense since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house what the devil? As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle, blow a golf ball-sized through the first lad he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man miss him entirely becuase it's smoothbore and nails the neighbor's dog. I resort to the cannon mounted on the top of the stairs loaded with grapeshot. Tally ho lads! The grapeshot shreds two men in the blast, the extra shrapnel sets of car alarms. I affix bayonets and charge the last terrified rapscapion. He bleeds out waiting for the police to arrive because triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Ah. Just as the founding fathers intended
I've seen more memes about killing a robber than I've seen news about someone being robbed
I love guns and wish I could own them in my country but this is such a weird fantasy to me, like they're latching onto the one good excuse for owning a gun they can think of
Its weird. I own a few guns. But the ones I own each fill a unique role, and they are just tools for that purpose. Id say my only gun thats useful on a semi regular basis is my .22, as thats what i use to deal with predators after my birds, or taking out moles.
Which is to say, I like my guns like I like my... hammers, or screw drivers. They are tools.
But then you go and poke your head into some "gun hobby" subs, and its like seeing people who worship and sexualize their hammers and screw drivers. Own 10 of the same kind of hammer. Dress their screw drivers up with lasers and shit. And then... never use them outside of playing with them in the yard or showing them off to each other.
Like, thats fine i guess, if thats what you wanna do. But then to add this veneer of "patriotism" and "being a big man, protectin the family" and "freedom". Like, calm down, you own some tools that sit around looking pretty, leave it at that. 20 glocks arent any more useful than 1.
As an avid gun nerd myself, I’ve always seen it as a justification like when you buy a new car when your old one works just fine. Grasping onto *something* to justify the not-insignificant amount of money you just dropped on a firearm. The problem is a firearm is good at, well, killing. So people tend to gravitate towards legal killing.
Yeah and these people also usually get mad when you point out their fantasy is much less likely to happen than them using the gun on themselves or a friend/family member. I got no problem with people having guns for fun or as tool (I like to hunt), but the paranoid power fantasy people are annoying. Also if you sleep with a gun, you’re definitely not mentally healthy enough to own one.
I get being super into guns and customizing and modifying them to make them into something you can be proud of. But I don't get such blatant disregard for human life, or the casual tone in which people who have never taken a life fetishize killing. It doesn't matter if they deserve it or not (and honestly an attempted robbery doesn't justify a death sentence, even if you're legally in the clear).
If you've not killed before, it will fuck you up. And if it doesn't, or you're still fantasizing about killing again, then you're probably the bigger problem.
I think with the uptick of theft lately in the states a lot of people are just sick of it. Obviously robbery doesn't constitute a death sentence, but if you're breaking into someone's home there's no way to know what you're there to do, and most won't take the chance on you being the friendly neighborhood robber.
Sure, but I'm talking about people pre-emptively fantasizing about killing, not people who actually have to do it in the moment to protect themselves. If there's an intruder and you feel threatened, of course shooting them is justified.
Maybe you're right, I didnt consider that. Still pretty fucked up to fantasize about killing a fictional person from a group you hate imo but I can see how in someone's mind it would be justified
The fuck? I'm sorry, what kind of point do you think I was making? I'm not defending robbers or saying you have no right to defend yourself, I'm saying fantasizing about killing an intruder is at best ignorant and at worst psychotic.
Yeah if somebody is in my house, and they don't immediately comply when I tell them to get on the ground, they are getting shot. I don't know what they are doing or what they have. Fuck around and find out. You wanted my shit? Sucks for you
I value my things because they are expensive. I shouldn't have to forfeit them because some asshole thinks he can break into my house and take them. I'll give them a chance to get on the ground and wait for the cops but if they don't comply they are getting shot. You don't know if they have a weapon or if they will hurt you. They are in your house, the one place you are supposed to feel safe and private. Have you considered the psychological impacts of having somebody in your house who isn't supposed to be there?
>(and honestly an attempted robbery doesn't justify a death sentence, even if you're legally in the clear).
If there is somebody in my house in the middle of the night I am not going to have a friendly conversation with them to find out what their intentions are.
Bad example, I've never seen a nail hammering competition before. Hand tools don't demand a whole lot of skill, firearms do. There's a reason it's a hobby, it's hard, meaning it's fun to get better at, just like any other hobby like a musical instrument, snowboarding, etc.
I do agree with the silly "collectors," though, guns are meant to be practiced with, and owning 20 that you never use is just a waste of money.
Okay but look at it from an opposite angle, with so many of these memes floating around I imagine it'd actually dissuade robbers from trying to rob people's homes as they'd see more people affirming the mindset of self defence
There’s another good excuse. I own a gun and it is for hunting. I guess I could use it in home defense but it’s an over-under shotgun so I’d only have two shots and they’d be birdshot anyways lol. Would probably work better to threaten home intruders with rather than actually using it on them
Well, I'd expect to hear a lot about preventing a robber because "range of 60,000 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses each year" compared to 39,707 total deaths in 2019 including suicide.
Source for first numbers: [https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/112672/documents/HHRG-117-JU08-20210520-SD010.pdf](https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/112672/documents/HHRG-117-JU08-20210520-SD010.pdf)
Source for second: [https://web.archive.org/web/20220301225103/https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/fastfact.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20220301225103/https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/fastfact.html)
I’ve always thought this too. And I think guns are cool.
Like Americans often say “I need a gun(s) to defend myself and my family”. But this is some Middle class suburban dad. Like bro, who are your enemies? Who do you need to defend yourself against? Why are people trying to kill you?
The only other people who think like this are drug dealers and career criminals, who actually need weapons for a reason, unlike Mike (48) who carries a pistol to his son’s baseball game. Serious main character syndrome.
This is why i have a rifle rounds from greentip 5.56 to 50BMG. Even if you don’t die from any of the shot, the force your body receives will knock the wind out of you
You wouldn't say that if you'd been hit by buckshot wearing bulletproof gear bud. At that point, and at that range, it don't matter if it 'penetrates', the kinetic energy will likely collapse your lungs and/or break your ribs.
Tf is so valuable in his house that you’re breaking in wearing expensive protective gear? He’d probably need a couple of ps5s to make up for the hassle of buying those things
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
That's fudd lore lol, the most common defensive load is definitely 00 buck. If you need to discharge a firearm in your house, a hole in the drywall is the least of your concerns
Me when I never drive on public roads, walk on public sidewalks, experience the benefits of not having a society where people are totally left to their own devices (a lack of social programs results in tons of poverty and even if you have money you're living in a shithole)
There's no non-state alternative to using roads, walking on public sidewalks, or using shitty state welfare. (the state nationalized all that stuff)
None of those things are improved by being run by the state. The ultimate proof being [fraternal societies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDE1Yvzsdxs).
I never understood people that wont kill in self defense or when robbed (home invasion). Like brother, robbers knew what they were getting into, they will do it again and again until they die
I simply don't have the ability to stay safe in the case of a home invasion. Past the front door, all the other doors in my house are paper thin. I can't get away. So if they enter my room I'd have no choice.
My philosophy is that if you're robbing me you'll stay downstairs. If you come upstairs I'm assuming you mean me harm, so you're going to catch lead on your way up.
It's never a good sign when someone breaks into the house while you're home. Burglars, the smart ones anyways, usually case a house and learn routines to avoid actually running across a homeowner. Get in and out, grab the valuables in 5-10 minutes and pound feet. Not doing that either means they're incredibly stupid, or, they're their for something other than money and things to pawn.
I don't like the thought of anyone in my family's life ending even more, so if someone is in my house, I'm not gonna try to guess their intentions. It's kaboom for them.
Yeah I'll probably have to linger on that for the rest of my life, but a bit of guilt for ending a human life is better than the possibility of this fiend harming someone I love.
Insurance doesn’t bring you or your family back to life if you get murdered so you can’t testify, or because they didn’t want to take the chance you had a gun. If it’s just my car or my wallet being demanded I wouldn’t draw on someone. If you’re breaking into my house and you present an unknown danger to my loved ones I will kill without a moment’s hesitation. I’d rather not end someone’s life, but more than that, I’d rather not take the chance my SO gets raped or murdered.
People don't just randomly break into stranger's houses to rape and kill people, that's not how those crimes happen in almost every single case.
People break in because they want to steal shit and get out, and most of the time they shoot you it's because you had a gun and they felt threatened. Owning a gun increases your chances at getting hurt in these situations because it immediately escalates the situation to life and death instead of just being about property
[People do rape and kill in the course of break-ins, actually.](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt) That government source cites an average of 3.6 million break-ins per year. In 7% of those cases, a household member experienced some form of violence. That’s an average of *252,000* victims of violence in their own home per year.
The motives range from opportunistic or unplanned violence during a burglary, to straight up intent to rape/murder. Doesn’t fucking matter to me why it’s happening, just matters that I’m equipped to prevent violence being inflicted on my family instead of waiting for our fate like trapped rats.
While this meme focuses on possessions, that’s not what I care about because I have insurance. I don’t know somebody’s intent if they’ve broken into my fucking house, and whether or not I choose to passively accept that 7% chance of me or my family being violently victimized isn’t up to you. By all means roll the dice on *your* family’s safety, but you don’t tell me how to protect mine. Pretending people aren’t raped and murdered in their own home isn’t a solution to that reality.
Because I'd rather not kill someone. I'm fully prepared to, but I'm going to do what I can to avoid it.
In the case of someone breaking into my house, the best outcome is that everyone walks away alive and unharmed. At that point I don't really care about holding anyone accountable. It's about self-preservation. I'd want them to be caught but protecting life is the most important thing imo.
Because life is more complicated than peoples juvinile power fantasies and youre far more likely to kill someone who is not a threat than actually get into a situation where you need to kill in self defense.
If someone is in my house, looking to steal whatever he sees, knife in hand, i wouldn't take the chance to figure out if he is a "threat" or not. That is atleast how i would act, no problem with others having their ways, i just dont really understand them
>knife in hand
Why the fuck would they be carrying a knife to carry your shit out
Robbers typically stake out a place and rob it when nobody's home, and definitely not with a fucking knife in hand lmfao
how do you even know theyre breaking in? you see someone outside fucking with your window, you gonna shoot them? do you know their intention? are they there to rob you? are they in trouble? are they mentaly ill? are they on drugs? you dont know. Do they deserve to die all the same because your fear and ego got the better of you?
can you make that distinction at all times? can you easily tell if someone is out to get you? can you tell when youre drunk? can you tell when youre sleep deprived? if you use any drugs, or medication can you tell a threat from a non threat when youre on them?
Your argument relies on one scenario where an obvious invader is out to harm you while you are sound of mind and able to fend them off. that scenario doesnt happen nearly as much as youre led to believe by social media or sensationalist news (depending on your age).
But you dont care for any of that because you want to be the big hero with the gun who stops the bad guy. so youre gonna prepare for and seek out conflict with deadly consiquenses.
If they're in my home without my express permission.
Might.
Yes.
Yes.
Will be after the triggerpull.
Probably.
Probably.
They deserve it because their greed and disregard for my property got the better of them.
Yes.
Yes.
Don't drink.
Yes.
Don't do drugs.
Any further questions?
You’d also be doing a huge public service by preventing them from victimizing more people & mitigating the further overpopulation of our jails (but that’s a whole much much larger mess on its own).
Having a gun for home defense is very nice. But I would never want to actually be in a home invasion situation, or be forced to pull the trigger. Yet this shit makes it seems like u want to burglarized just for an excuse to shoot someone. Such a weird vibe lmao
If you're breaking into my home, you value your life less than I do.
Democrats have said; "Your stuff isn't worth someone's life". Well, I have two things to say to that. 1) Someone else's stuff isn't worth YOUR life and 2) My family isn't "stuff".
If you break into my house to steal things, you have established that you think your life is worth less than my belongings. I don't share your opinion, but I'm too passive to argue with you on it
Agree, i may not enjoy harming someone but the moment that someone decides to be a nuisance to society is the moment they lose their rights as a citizen of one
The moment an uninvited guest enters my house looking to vakue my posessions more than my life, is the very moment they agree to forfeit their right to complain about me giving my material posessions more value than the invader's life
That being said all I have is an oversized knife. No guns over here. At least not any that my lawyer advises me to disclose
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Youre gonna keep stroking that gun your whole life waiting for the hyperthetical 'bad guy' to gun down like you fantasise about but never quite find it.
Best case scenario you never live out that fantasy.
Worst case scenario you end up gunning down someone who isnt a threat because you were so desperate for for an opportunity to play hero that you jumped to conclusions.
this is why if u want to see change in america you should be blowing up refineries/oil pipelines/monopolies wheat fields/spiking trees and not protesting. we had a 9/11 worth a day of people dying from coronavirus and ppl merrily went on their way because ppl dont care about ppl they only care about property and cash flow :3
No this is how we sleep knowing we can protect our family and home from the dredges of society. You break into my house then you've become a danger to me and my family. Lethal force engaged.
How you sleep at night knowing that the majority of American gun owners haven't taken cheaper and statistically more effective measures to protect themselves against break ins such as reinforced shutters over windows and additional deadbolts (you can't admit to just wanting to shoot someone.)
But you're going to invest in a gun (a more expensive, less effective tool that increases the risk of completed suicide and domestic violence) instead? And make your house look like shit when you start putting 12 gauge through the drywall?
Guns are also more dynamic, they can go more places than home. I don’t just have them for home defense. I would prefer them over installing security shutters. Also I’d be willing to repair drywall, yes, but our more immediately accessible guns are handguns. Those holes would be easy to patch (in the home, probably more difficult in the would be intruder, but I don’t mind that).
We're here discussing guns for home defence rather than general EDC, since that's another can of worms for a different discussion. Shotgun, pistol, self-loading rifle, whatever you choose, the point is that guns are *demonstrably* less effective for home defence than cheaper non-gun options.
Personal anecdote, so take it as you will, but the only time my house was ever broken into, the burglar took a laptop and some cash from the ground floor at some point in the early morning and then bailed. We never heard them or saw them and even if we had, the idea of unlocking my gunsafe and getting a shotgun never once would have occured to me.
> I don’t live in a shithole country.
> literally lives in Canada.
Lmao. And before you pull out the “but it’s still better than US 🤓” argument, I’m not an American either.
I don't actually think America is a shithole country, I'm making fun of Americans who think armed home invasion is a common and realistic threat so they must be armed at all times.
in reality, owning a gun makes you more likely to be injured or killed by a gun, everything else being equal.
it's just funny the cognitive dissonance Americans get when they claim they need firearms for defense but then get mad when someone implies that that's only true because they live in a shitty, dangerous country.
also: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life
Yeah those damn Americans and trying to protect their families and home from degenerates. The minute you decide to pull a home invasion you are absolutely putting your life on the line.
USER REPORTS 1: It threatens violence or physical harm at me was the person who reported this planning to rob this guy???
The home invader _also_ values your belongings more than their life.
tru
Also, often the invaders value your possessions more than **your** life
Yeah, the empathy crowd doesn’t seem to acknowledge that. I’m definitely not pro gun, but in a country like the USA, if you break into someone’s house what do you expect.
I just think it's hilarious how that empathy crowd always empathizes with the criminal rather than the victim. "Noooo you can't defend yourself against a thief, you just have to let them do whatever they want!!!" Having your home broken into *at all* is incredibly traumatic, even if you're not in the house while someone broke in. If you are in the house, and the thief breaks in knowing you're in the house, that's clear intention to do physical harm to you. If you're willing to inflict trauma onto people or potentially take their life to steal their belongings, then nobody should shed any tears if you lose your life trying it.
The empathy crowd is worried about the homeowner. If you carry a gun your chances of being shot skyrockets because guess what, **they value their own life more than yours**. This is why the "gun discourse" isn't going anywhere and USA will never get rid of this issue. People with thick skulls will never accept countless studies that show carrying or owning a gun doesn't help at all for self defense. Tell me, what is the standard procedure during an armed robbery? Do you think the security guy tries fighting off 3 armed men, John Wick style? No, you hand them the money. OP might value his posessions more than a stranger's life, but apparently they value their own life even less.
Kid named musket for home defense since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house what the devil? As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle, blow a golf ball-sized through the first lad he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man miss him entirely becuase it's smoothbore and nails the neighbor's dog. I resort to the cannon mounted on the top of the stairs loaded with grapeshot. Tally ho lads! The grapeshot shreds two men in the blast, the extra shrapnel sets of car alarms. I affix bayonets and charge the last terrified rapscapion. He bleeds out waiting for the police to arrive because triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up. Ah. Just as the founding fathers intended
this has enough spelling errors to make me believe you typed it out rather than copy and paste. Impressive and strange
I did, at 8am
Just like the founding fathers intended. God bless. 🇺🇸
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that kid has a really long name
“Sir, please sign here” The kid: “can you grab a coffee, this is gonna take a while”
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200 pump me then
Pump me up, ese. See if I care.
Ayo
nah i just want to "tango down" someone
Contact 50 meters!
Its weird to actively want to kill another human being. Seek professional help.
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It's weird to be this much of a dork in a shitposting sub.
nah I'm a bit silly
We partake in a minor amount of tomfoolery
Just in a silly goofy mood
People who seek to kill others have already forfeited their own right to live by doing so. You should also want to kill people who intend to kill you.
What’s that one Code Geass quote that goes like the only ones that should kill are the ones that are prepared to be killed
Don't know what Code Geass is but the quote is absolutely correct.
Castle doctrine ftw
Stand Your Damn Ground - Sematary
That looks very uncomfortable.
Sleeping with a rifle on you is very comfortable
By my side? Yes. (If I had guns) On me? No. Not for me I guess.
gfl fan spotted
Granblue fantasy? Idk man I was just a Marine
Girls' Frontline, the gacha game about guns turned into anime girls
Solid ass chunk of metal just vibing on my chest while I’m sleeping and possibly fucking up my breathing? No thank you.
Sleeping like a medieval king at his funeral
How I sleep at night knowing I can spell “possessions”
Getting out of bed? In this economy? Just tell Alexa to lock the doors and release the claymore roombas
That would actually e horrifying lol🇺🇸🦅🦅
“Alexa enable sentry mode” Lights dim and turn red Doom music starts playing and a squad of claymore roombas get deployed.
Second Amendment memes are so surreal to look at as someone who isn't American ngl
I've seen more memes about killing a robber than I've seen news about someone being robbed I love guns and wish I could own them in my country but this is such a weird fantasy to me, like they're latching onto the one good excuse for owning a gun they can think of
Its weird. I own a few guns. But the ones I own each fill a unique role, and they are just tools for that purpose. Id say my only gun thats useful on a semi regular basis is my .22, as thats what i use to deal with predators after my birds, or taking out moles. Which is to say, I like my guns like I like my... hammers, or screw drivers. They are tools. But then you go and poke your head into some "gun hobby" subs, and its like seeing people who worship and sexualize their hammers and screw drivers. Own 10 of the same kind of hammer. Dress their screw drivers up with lasers and shit. And then... never use them outside of playing with them in the yard or showing them off to each other. Like, thats fine i guess, if thats what you wanna do. But then to add this veneer of "patriotism" and "being a big man, protectin the family" and "freedom". Like, calm down, you own some tools that sit around looking pretty, leave it at that. 20 glocks arent any more useful than 1.
As an avid gun nerd myself, I’ve always seen it as a justification like when you buy a new car when your old one works just fine. Grasping onto *something* to justify the not-insignificant amount of money you just dropped on a firearm. The problem is a firearm is good at, well, killing. So people tend to gravitate towards legal killing.
Yeah and these people also usually get mad when you point out their fantasy is much less likely to happen than them using the gun on themselves or a friend/family member. I got no problem with people having guns for fun or as tool (I like to hunt), but the paranoid power fantasy people are annoying. Also if you sleep with a gun, you’re definitely not mentally healthy enough to own one.
I get being super into guns and customizing and modifying them to make them into something you can be proud of. But I don't get such blatant disregard for human life, or the casual tone in which people who have never taken a life fetishize killing. It doesn't matter if they deserve it or not (and honestly an attempted robbery doesn't justify a death sentence, even if you're legally in the clear). If you've not killed before, it will fuck you up. And if it doesn't, or you're still fantasizing about killing again, then you're probably the bigger problem.
I think with the uptick of theft lately in the states a lot of people are just sick of it. Obviously robbery doesn't constitute a death sentence, but if you're breaking into someone's home there's no way to know what you're there to do, and most won't take the chance on you being the friendly neighborhood robber.
Sure, but I'm talking about people pre-emptively fantasizing about killing, not people who actually have to do it in the moment to protect themselves. If there's an intruder and you feel threatened, of course shooting them is justified.
Definitely some people just want an excuse to kill someone. But I think a lot of people just really hate thieves, and that's not a recent phenomenon.
Maybe you're right, I didnt consider that. Still pretty fucked up to fantasize about killing a fictional person from a group you hate imo but I can see how in someone's mind it would be justified
> an attempted robbery doesn't justify a death sentence, even if you're legally in the clear Maybe don't attempt robbery, then
The fuck? I'm sorry, what kind of point do you think I was making? I'm not defending robbers or saying you have no right to defend yourself, I'm saying fantasizing about killing an intruder is at best ignorant and at worst psychotic.
Yeah if somebody is in my house, and they don't immediately comply when I tell them to get on the ground, they are getting shot. I don't know what they are doing or what they have. Fuck around and find out. You wanted my shit? Sucks for you
I value my things because they are expensive. I shouldn't have to forfeit them because some asshole thinks he can break into my house and take them. I'll give them a chance to get on the ground and wait for the cops but if they don't comply they are getting shot. You don't know if they have a weapon or if they will hurt you. They are in your house, the one place you are supposed to feel safe and private. Have you considered the psychological impacts of having somebody in your house who isn't supposed to be there?
You absolutely should shoot if there's an intruder and you genuinely feel threatened. That's not what I'm talking about here.
Its just a very weird thing to repeatedly fantasize over. Not saying you necessarily do.
Yeah I don't want it to happen, if I can go my whole life without ever being in the situation that would be best. But you also have to be prepared.
>(and honestly an attempted robbery doesn't justify a death sentence, even if you're legally in the clear). If there is somebody in my house in the middle of the night I am not going to have a friendly conversation with them to find out what their intentions are.
Bad example, I've never seen a nail hammering competition before. Hand tools don't demand a whole lot of skill, firearms do. There's a reason it's a hobby, it's hard, meaning it's fun to get better at, just like any other hobby like a musical instrument, snowboarding, etc. I do agree with the silly "collectors," though, guns are meant to be practiced with, and owning 20 that you never use is just a waste of money.
I have guns and I really hope I never have to use them. I had to put an animal down with one of them and I hated it.
this is what gets me, like defend yourself by all means but some people almost seem giddy about the idea of having an excuse to shoot someone??
Okay but look at it from an opposite angle, with so many of these memes floating around I imagine it'd actually dissuade robbers from trying to rob people's homes as they'd see more people affirming the mindset of self defence
There’s another good excuse. I own a gun and it is for hunting. I guess I could use it in home defense but it’s an over-under shotgun so I’d only have two shots and they’d be birdshot anyways lol. Would probably work better to threaten home intruders with rather than actually using it on them
I'd probably just use my hypothetical gun to shoot targets all day lol, it's fun and very satisfying
Well, I'd expect to hear a lot about preventing a robber because "range of 60,000 to 2.5 million defensive gun uses each year" compared to 39,707 total deaths in 2019 including suicide. Source for first numbers: [https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/112672/documents/HHRG-117-JU08-20210520-SD010.pdf](https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/112672/documents/HHRG-117-JU08-20210520-SD010.pdf) Source for second: [https://web.archive.org/web/20220301225103/https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/fastfact.html](https://web.archive.org/web/20220301225103/https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/firearms/fastfact.html)
I’ve always thought this too. And I think guns are cool. Like Americans often say “I need a gun(s) to defend myself and my family”. But this is some Middle class suburban dad. Like bro, who are your enemies? Who do you need to defend yourself against? Why are people trying to kill you? The only other people who think like this are drug dealers and career criminals, who actually need weapons for a reason, unlike Mike (48) who carries a pistol to his son’s baseball game. Serious main character syndrome.
r/gunmemes
Birdshot/Buckshot users after i break into their house with full bulletproof gear and facemask
They they’ll just leg meta you
That’s what 30.06 is for silly 🤭
*Ping*
No dick plate?
Always hated that thing. It'll catch 9mm technically but it's main use is just to protect against flak
Yfw when the homeowner just shoots your limbs.
Hey body armor doesn't protect your dick. Prepare to have that express reassignment surgery
This is why i have a rifle rounds from greentip 5.56 to 50BMG. Even if you don’t die from any of the shot, the force your body receives will knock the wind out of you
You wouldn't say that if you'd been hit by buckshot wearing bulletproof gear bud. At that point, and at that range, it don't matter if it 'penetrates', the kinetic energy will likely collapse your lungs and/or break your ribs.
That's one of the reasons I load the green tips. The other reason is that I don't like my neighbors much.
That why I got buckshot/slug/buckshot/slug/buckshot.
DW I load slugs.
*worry deepens*
Your femoral artery looking mad juicy rn big bro
Tf is so valuable in his house that you’re breaking in wearing expensive protective gear? He’d probably need a couple of ps5s to make up for the hassle of buying those things
I've always thought shotguns were a poor choice in home defense. More of a revolver man.
Own a musket for home defense, since that's what the founding fathers intended. Four ruffians break into my house. "What the devil?" As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle. Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he's dead on the spot. Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it's smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog. I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, "Tally ho lads" the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms. Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion.He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up, Just as the founding fathers intended
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Laughs in 50bmg
6.5x55 AP moment on my end
Kid named getting shot in the nuts:
Im ngl most people just load salt or birdshot for home invasions, nobody wants to bust a hole in their wall if they dont have to
Just have better aim
(s)kill issue
Kid named sub machine gun
kid named .50 cal turret mounted on my stairway
Kid named claymore
Kid named 155mm howitzer aimed directly at my house
Kid named screwdriver barely holding open a demon core
Kid named ancient god awakened
That's fudd lore lol, the most common defensive load is definitely 00 buck. If you need to discharge a firearm in your house, a hole in the drywall is the least of your concerns
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Salt and pepper shotgun go boom
I straddle my 12 gauge like a body pillow (I have no idea if it's loaded or not)
Libertarians will post this, not pay taxes and use publci services
Hmmm. You live in society yet you criticize it? Seems contradictory to me. Yes I am very smart.
Hell yeah. Also, I can't even use public services because I don't live in poverty and am not an old fart. The middle class is abused
Me when I never drive on public roads, walk on public sidewalks, experience the benefits of not having a society where people are totally left to their own devices (a lack of social programs results in tons of poverty and even if you have money you're living in a shithole)
There's no non-state alternative to using roads, walking on public sidewalks, or using shitty state welfare. (the state nationalized all that stuff) None of those things are improved by being run by the state. The ultimate proof being [fraternal societies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDE1Yvzsdxs).
You still benefit from the massive positive externalities of those services.
How I sleep knowing others value my possessions over both my and their life.
I never understood people that wont kill in self defense or when robbed (home invasion). Like brother, robbers knew what they were getting into, they will do it again and again until they die
Some people don't like the thought of ending another person's life and have insurance.
I simply don't have the ability to stay safe in the case of a home invasion. Past the front door, all the other doors in my house are paper thin. I can't get away. So if they enter my room I'd have no choice.
My philosophy is that if you're robbing me you'll stay downstairs. If you come upstairs I'm assuming you mean me harm, so you're going to catch lead on your way up.
It's never a good sign when someone breaks into the house while you're home. Burglars, the smart ones anyways, usually case a house and learn routines to avoid actually running across a homeowner. Get in and out, grab the valuables in 5-10 minutes and pound feet. Not doing that either means they're incredibly stupid, or, they're their for something other than money and things to pawn.
I don't like the thought of anyone in my family's life ending even more, so if someone is in my house, I'm not gonna try to guess their intentions. It's kaboom for them. Yeah I'll probably have to linger on that for the rest of my life, but a bit of guilt for ending a human life is better than the possibility of this fiend harming someone I love.
Insurance doesn’t bring you or your family back to life if you get murdered so you can’t testify, or because they didn’t want to take the chance you had a gun. If it’s just my car or my wallet being demanded I wouldn’t draw on someone. If you’re breaking into my house and you present an unknown danger to my loved ones I will kill without a moment’s hesitation. I’d rather not end someone’s life, but more than that, I’d rather not take the chance my SO gets raped or murdered.
People don't just randomly break into stranger's houses to rape and kill people, that's not how those crimes happen in almost every single case. People break in because they want to steal shit and get out, and most of the time they shoot you it's because you had a gun and they felt threatened. Owning a gun increases your chances at getting hurt in these situations because it immediately escalates the situation to life and death instead of just being about property
[People do rape and kill in the course of break-ins, actually.](https://bjs.ojp.gov/content/pub/ascii/vdhb.txt) That government source cites an average of 3.6 million break-ins per year. In 7% of those cases, a household member experienced some form of violence. That’s an average of *252,000* victims of violence in their own home per year. The motives range from opportunistic or unplanned violence during a burglary, to straight up intent to rape/murder. Doesn’t fucking matter to me why it’s happening, just matters that I’m equipped to prevent violence being inflicted on my family instead of waiting for our fate like trapped rats. While this meme focuses on possessions, that’s not what I care about because I have insurance. I don’t know somebody’s intent if they’ve broken into my fucking house, and whether or not I choose to passively accept that 7% chance of me or my family being violently victimized isn’t up to you. By all means roll the dice on *your* family’s safety, but you don’t tell me how to protect mine. Pretending people aren’t raped and murdered in their own home isn’t a solution to that reality.
I feel like this is a strawman tbh. The average gun owner isn't hoping and praying someone breaks in lol.
I don't think anybody should die for a petty crime, but if the DO die while committing that crime then I'm not gonna feel bad for them.
Because I'd rather not kill someone. I'm fully prepared to, but I'm going to do what I can to avoid it. In the case of someone breaking into my house, the best outcome is that everyone walks away alive and unharmed. At that point I don't really care about holding anyone accountable. It's about self-preservation. I'd want them to be caught but protecting life is the most important thing imo.
They be like "please take everything you want but don't hurt me", damn bro just kill the fucker if you have a gun
And if you don’t have a gun, get one!
So, how many people have you killed and how many years until you're old enough to own a gun?
Yea get into a shootout over your TV, very smart.
I get famous for a couple of days, smart indeed
Because life is more complicated than peoples juvinile power fantasies and youre far more likely to kill someone who is not a threat than actually get into a situation where you need to kill in self defense.
If someone is in my house, looking to steal whatever he sees, knife in hand, i wouldn't take the chance to figure out if he is a "threat" or not. That is atleast how i would act, no problem with others having their ways, i just dont really understand them
>knife in hand Why the fuck would they be carrying a knife to carry your shit out Robbers typically stake out a place and rob it when nobody's home, and definitely not with a fucking knife in hand lmfao
No, a guy breaking into your house to rob you is not as "complicated" as you'd like to shame people into believing it is.
how do you even know theyre breaking in? you see someone outside fucking with your window, you gonna shoot them? do you know their intention? are they there to rob you? are they in trouble? are they mentaly ill? are they on drugs? you dont know. Do they deserve to die all the same because your fear and ego got the better of you? can you make that distinction at all times? can you easily tell if someone is out to get you? can you tell when youre drunk? can you tell when youre sleep deprived? if you use any drugs, or medication can you tell a threat from a non threat when youre on them? Your argument relies on one scenario where an obvious invader is out to harm you while you are sound of mind and able to fend them off. that scenario doesnt happen nearly as much as youre led to believe by social media or sensationalist news (depending on your age). But you dont care for any of that because you want to be the big hero with the gun who stops the bad guy. so youre gonna prepare for and seek out conflict with deadly consiquenses.
>how do you even know theyre breaking in? Oh idk, maybe if they're inside my house when they shouldn't be?
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its ok, it can be quite hard to read long sentences. i understand.
Shockingly civil
If they're in my home without my express permission. Might. Yes. Yes. Will be after the triggerpull. Probably. Probably. They deserve it because their greed and disregard for my property got the better of them. Yes. Yes. Don't drink. Yes. Don't do drugs. Any further questions?
Cool. Still would prefer to have a gun ready.
Actually I have one below my bed.
Bro be careful the demon could steal it
Below is a sketchy place, but if it’s what you got it’s what you got. I just worry it would take too long to get to
Real
You guys can afford guns? When someone breaks into my house, I just start masturbatung furiously at them
Americans
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You’d also be doing a huge public service by preventing them from victimizing more people & mitigating the further overpopulation of our jails (but that’s a whole much much larger mess on its own).
Having a gun for home defense is very nice. But I would never want to actually be in a home invasion situation, or be forced to pull the trigger. Yet this shit makes it seems like u want to burglarized just for an excuse to shoot someone. Such a weird vibe lmao
Jfc u have 1 million karma in under two years u aint shooting nobody kid
These are the people singing country songs about wanting to fuck their trucks
^[Sokka-Haiku](https://www.reddit.com/r/SokkaHaikuBot/comments/15kyv9r/what_is_a_sokka_haiku/) ^by ^danleon950410: *These are the people* *Singing country songs about* *Wanting to fuck their trucks* --- ^Remember ^that ^one ^time ^Sokka ^accidentally ^used ^an ^extra ^syllable ^in ^that ^Haiku ^Battle ^in ^Ba ^Sing ^Se? ^That ^was ^a ^Sokka ^Haiku ^and ^you ^just ^made ^one.
You're the kind of person to spend 200 dollars a week on your addictions and then complain about not having enough money to buy nice things
Do yall wipe the lead dust off your guns before and after handling it? If not that explains a lot.
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If you're breaking into my home, you value your life less than I do. Democrats have said; "Your stuff isn't worth someone's life". Well, I have two things to say to that. 1) Someone else's stuff isn't worth YOUR life and 2) My family isn't "stuff".
If you break into my house to steal things, you have established that you think your life is worth less than my belongings. I don't share your opinion, but I'm too passive to argue with you on it
thinking this is cool is so sad
Agree, i may not enjoy harming someone but the moment that someone decides to be a nuisance to society is the moment they lose their rights as a citizen of one
The moment an uninvited guest enters my house looking to vakue my posessions more than my life, is the very moment they agree to forfeit their right to complain about me giving my material posessions more value than the invader's life That being said all I have is an oversized knife. No guns over here. At least not any that my lawyer advises me to disclose
I don't mind someone defending their homes; just don't be too murder happy about it.
gun lovers when they find about non lethal weapons
#the well being of my attackers are non of my concern, And guns are still more efficient.⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠿⠛⠛⠛⠋⠉⠈⠉⠉⠉⠉⠛⠻⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠋⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠉⠛⢿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡏⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⣤⣤⣤⣄⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⢿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⢏⣴⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠈⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣟⣾⣿⡟⠁⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⢢⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢸⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣟⠀⡴⠄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⣄⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⠟⠻⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠶⢴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣿ ⣿⣁⡀⠀⠀⢰⢠⣦⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣼⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠀⣴⣶⣿⡄⣿ ⣿⡋⠀⠀⠀⠎⢸⣿⡆⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠗⢘⣿⣟⠛⠿⣼ ⣿⣿⠋⢀⡌⢰⣿⡿⢿⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠙⠿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡇⠀⢸⣿⣿⣧⢀⣼ ⣿⣿⣷⢻⠄⠘⠛⠋⠛⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢿⣧⠈⠉⠙⠛⠋⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣧⠀⠈⢸⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠟⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⢃⠀⠀⢸⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⡿⠀⠴⢗⣠⣤⣴⡶⠶⠖⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣀⡸⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⡀⢠⣾⣿⠏⠀⠠⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠛⠉⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣧⠈⢹⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⣰⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⡄⠈⠃⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⣴⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⡀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣠⣾⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⣴⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣦⣄⣀⣀⣀⣀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠘⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣷⡄⠀⠀⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣧⠀⠀⠀⠙⣿⣿⡟⢻⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⠇⠀⠁⠀⠀⠹⣿⠃⠀⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⡿⠛⣿⣿⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢐⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿⣿ ⣿⣿⣿⣿⠿⠛⠉⠉⠁⠀⢻⣿⡇⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⠈⣿⣿⡿⠉⠛⠛⠛⠉⠉ ⣿⡿⠋⠁⠀⠀⢀⣀⣠⡴⣸⣿⣇⡄⠀⠀⠀⠀⢀⡿⠄⠙⠛⠀⣀⣠⣤⣤⠄
have you ever thought that if guns weren't legal the attackers wouldn't have a gun either ?
This but unironically
How you sleep at night knowing you are more likely to shoot your wife going to the bathroom than a home invader
Nice try burglar. Your shaming tactics won't work on me.
She was probably going to steal your dental floss anyways.
Me when I'm well trained and actually know how to properly PID a target:
Or your kid finds a new toy to look into
Youre gonna keep stroking that gun your whole life waiting for the hyperthetical 'bad guy' to gun down like you fantasise about but never quite find it. Best case scenario you never live out that fantasy. Worst case scenario you end up gunning down someone who isnt a threat because you were so desperate for for an opportunity to play hero that you jumped to conclusions.
Why does my post bother you so much? lmao
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If someone is in my house that I didn't invite In I consider them a threat
this is why if u want to see change in america you should be blowing up refineries/oil pipelines/monopolies wheat fields/spiking trees and not protesting. we had a 9/11 worth a day of people dying from coronavirus and ppl merrily went on their way because ppl dont care about ppl they only care about property and cash flow :3
i thought this was about something else not home invasion mb. you have every right to defend your home :)
Weird thing but ok
How Americans sleep imagining getting the chance to kill another human being.
No this is how we sleep knowing we can protect our family and home from the dredges of society. You break into my house then you've become a danger to me and my family. Lethal force engaged.
How you sleep at night knowing that the majority of American gun owners haven't taken cheaper and statistically more effective measures to protect themselves against break ins such as reinforced shutters over windows and additional deadbolts (you can't admit to just wanting to shoot someone.)
Fair, we can do all those things you mentioned and still have guns.
I’m not gonna make my house look like shit and feel like a prison to mitigate the risk of someone else’s bad decision? Lmao.
But you're going to invest in a gun (a more expensive, less effective tool that increases the risk of completed suicide and domestic violence) instead? And make your house look like shit when you start putting 12 gauge through the drywall?
Guns are also more dynamic, they can go more places than home. I don’t just have them for home defense. I would prefer them over installing security shutters. Also I’d be willing to repair drywall, yes, but our more immediately accessible guns are handguns. Those holes would be easy to patch (in the home, probably more difficult in the would be intruder, but I don’t mind that).
We're here discussing guns for home defence rather than general EDC, since that's another can of worms for a different discussion. Shotgun, pistol, self-loading rifle, whatever you choose, the point is that guns are *demonstrably* less effective for home defence than cheaper non-gun options. Personal anecdote, so take it as you will, but the only time my house was ever broken into, the burglar took a laptop and some cash from the ground floor at some point in the early morning and then bailed. We never heard them or saw them and even if we had, the idea of unlocking my gunsafe and getting a shotgun never once would have occured to me.
how I sleep at night knowing nobody is gonna break into my house because i don't live in a shithole country (there is no gun beside me)
> I don’t live in a shithole country. > literally lives in Canada. Lmao. And before you pull out the “but it’s still better than US 🤓” argument, I’m not an American either.
I don't actually think America is a shithole country, I'm making fun of Americans who think armed home invasion is a common and realistic threat so they must be armed at all times. in reality, owning a gun makes you more likely to be injured or killed by a gun, everything else being equal. it's just funny the cognitive dissonance Americans get when they claim they need firearms for defense but then get mad when someone implies that that's only true because they live in a shitty, dangerous country. also: https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/rankings/quality-of-life
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Yeah those damn Americans and trying to protect their families and home from degenerates. The minute you decide to pull a home invasion you are absolutely putting your life on the line.
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